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From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] readahead: dont do start-of-file readahead after lseek()
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:48:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100202184831.GD75577@dspnet.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1002021037110.3664@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:40:41AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> IOW, if you start off with a SEEK_END, I think it's reasonable to expect 
> it to _not_ read the whole thing.

I've seen a lot of:
  int fd = open(...);
  size = lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END);
  lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_SET);

  data = malloc(size);
  read(fd, data, size);
  close(fd);

Why not fstat?  I don't know.  Perhaps a case of cargo culting,
perhaps a case of "other unixes suck for portability"[1].  But it's
probably still there a lot in real code.

  OG.

[1] In the hpux, dgux, sunos, etc sense.  Not to be taken as a comment
    on modern BSDs.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] readahead: dont do start-of-file readahead after lseek()
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:48:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100202184831.GD75577@dspnet.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1002021037110.3664@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 10:40:41AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> IOW, if you start off with a SEEK_END, I think it's reasonable to expect 
> it to _not_ read the whole thing.

I've seen a lot of:
  int fd = open(...);
  size = lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END);
  lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_SET);

  data = malloc(size);
  read(fd, data, size);
  close(fd);

Why not fstat?  I don't know.  Perhaps a case of cargo culting,
perhaps a case of "other unixes suck for portability"[1].  But it's
probably still there a lot in real code.

  OG.

[1] In the hpux, dgux, sunos, etc sense.  Not to be taken as a comment
    on modern BSDs.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-02 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-02 15:28 [PATCH 00/11] [RFC] 512K readahead size with thrashing safe readahead Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 01/11] readahead: limit readahead size for small devices Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 19:38   ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-02 19:38     ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-03  6:13     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-03  6:13       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-03  8:23       ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-03  8:23         ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-04  8:24   ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-04  8:24     ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-02-04 13:00     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-04 13:00       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 02/11] readahead: bump up the default readahead size Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] readahead: introduce {MAX|MIN}_READAHEAD_PAGES macros for ease of use Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 04/11] readahead: replace ra->mmap_miss with ra->ra_flags Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 05/11] readahead: retain inactive lru pages to be accessed soon Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 06/11] readahead: thrashing safe context readahead Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 07/11] readahead: record readahead patterns Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 08/11] readahead: add tracing event Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-12 16:19   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-12 16:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-14  3:56     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-14  3:56       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 09/11] readahead: add /debug/readahead/stats Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 10/11] readahead: dont do start-of-file readahead after lseek() Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 17:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 17:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 18:13   ` Olivier Galibert
2010-02-02 18:13     ` Olivier Galibert
2010-02-02 18:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 18:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 18:48       ` Olivier Galibert [this message]
2010-02-02 18:48         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-02-02 19:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 19:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 19:59           ` david
2010-02-02 19:59             ` david
2010-02-02 20:22             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 20:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 11/11] radixtree: speed up next/prev hole search Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 15:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-02 22:38 ` [PATCH 00/11] [RFC] 512K readahead size with thrashing safe readahead Vivek Goyal
2010-02-02 22:38   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-02 22:38   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-02 23:17   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-02 23:17     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-03  6:27   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-03  6:27     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-03 15:24     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-03 15:24       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-03 15:58       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-03 15:58         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-03 16:55         ` Fwd: " Mike Snitzer
2010-02-04 13:21         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-04 13:21           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-04 15:52           ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-04 15:52             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-02-04 13:44       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-04 13:44         ` Wu Fengguang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-07  4:10 [PATCH 00/11] " Wu Fengguang
2010-02-07  4:10 ` [PATCH 10/11] readahead: dont do start-of-file readahead after lseek() Wu Fengguang
2010-02-07  4:10   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-07  4:10   ` Wu Fengguang

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