From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:12:19 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100324171219.4365318b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BAA6CD9.6060001@redhat.com>
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:49:45 +0200
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 03/24/2010 06:42 PM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:42:16 +0200
> > Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> So, at best qemud is a toy for people who are annoyed by libvirt.
> >>
> > Is the reason for doing this in qemu because libvirt is annoying?
>
> Mostly.
>
> > I don't see
> > how adding yet another layer/daemon is going to improve ours and user's life
> > (the same applies for libqemu).
> >
>
> libvirt becomes optional.
I think it should only be optional if all you want is to run a single VM
in this case what seems to be missing on our side is a _real_ GUI, bundled
with QEMU potentially written in a high-level language.
Then we make virt-manager optional and this is good because we can sync
features way faster and we don't have to care about _managing_ several
VMs, our world in terms of usability and maintainability is about one VM.
IMVHO, everything else should be done by third-party tools like libvirt,
we just provide the means for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-24 20:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 8:54 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 7:35 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 0:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 2:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 7:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 8:49 ` Juan Quintela
[not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 5:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 0:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2010-03-24 20:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 7:49 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 8:26 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 2:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26 9:26 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 2:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 6:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 8:18 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 5:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 2:31 ` Jamie Lokier
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