From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:57:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA900F1.5020001@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA7C40C.2040505@codemonkey.ws>
On 03/22/2010 09:25 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've mentioned this to a few folks already but I wanted to start a
> proper thread.
>
> We're struggling in qemu with usability and one area that concerns me
> is the disparity in features that are supported by qemu vs what's
> implemented in libvirt.
>
> This isn't necessarily libvirt's problem if it's mission is to provide
> a common hypervisor API that covers the most commonly used features.
>
> However, for qemu, we need an API that covers all of our features that
> people can develop against. The ultimate question we need to figure
> out is, should we encourage our users to always use libvirt or should
> we build our own API for people (and libvirt) to consume.
>
> I don't think it's necessarily a big technical challenge for libvirt
> to support qemu more completely. I think it amounts to introducing a
> series of virQemuXXXX APIs that implement qemu specific functions.
> Over time, qemu specific APIs can be deprecated in favour of more
> generic virDomain APIs.
>
> What's the feeling about this from the libvirt side of things? Is
> there interest in support hypervisor specific interfaces should we be
> looking to provide our own management interface for libvirt to consume?
>
One option is to expose a qmp connection to the client. Of course that
introduces a consistency problem (libvirt plugs in a card, user plugs it
own, libvirt is confused). If the user promises to behave, it can work
for stuff that's 100% orthogonal to libvirt.
One problem is that this is libvirt version specific. For example,
libvirt x doesn't support spice so we control that thorough qmp. But
libvirt x+1 does support spice and now it gets confused about all the
spice messages.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-23 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 8:54 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 7:35 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 0:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 2:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 7:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 8:49 ` Juan Quintela
[not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 5:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 0:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 7:49 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 8:26 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 2:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26 9:26 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 2:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 6:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 8:18 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 5:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-23 19:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 2:31 ` Jamie Lokier
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