From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:55:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA962F3.1020107@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100323232531.GE20130@shareable.org>
On 03/23/2010 06:25 PM, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Alexander Graf wrote:
>
>> I don't see why we shouldn't be able to automatically generate
>> libqemu.so. We have the *.hx files that describe the syntax of
>> parameters plus list all available options / commands. I'm not sure
>> how exactly QMP works, but having a generic QMP command to list all
>> available options would be handy too.
>>
>> By then we could automate most of the library, making the glueing
>> really easy. If libvirt doesn't properly link against libqemu anymore
>> we also know why: The ABI changed.
>>
> I'm thinking most potential uses of the binary API, other than C
> programmers, would be happier with a D-Bus version generated from
> those same *.hx files. Because then it's easy to call the API from
> Python, Perl, even shell, etc. Whereas libqemu.so would be relatively
> difficult to use from those languages.
>
My thinking with respect to libqemu.so is that it should be mostly
autogenerated.
QMP supports introspection, we should be able to generate an idl
description of QMP via introspection and then build all of the function
stubs from that idl. Then there is no opportunity for libqemu to be out
of date.
All we really need to write for libqemu is some core bits to deal with
transport specific issues.
> (Aside: I don't particularly like D-Bus. But it does seem to work
> for this sort of thing.)
>
I don't think d-bus is a good fit as a core qemu service. It's not
commonly used on other platform and it introduces quite a bit of
overhead for non-Unix platforms.
But that certainly doesn't mean that a d-bus service implemented on top
of libqemu (even autogenerated from our IDL) would be a bad project.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> -- Jamie
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-24 0:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 8:54 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 7:35 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 0:55 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 2:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 7:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 8:49 ` Juan Quintela
[not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 5:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 0:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 7:49 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 8:26 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 2:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26 9:26 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 2:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 6:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 8:18 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 5:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 2:31 ` Jamie Lokier
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