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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Cam Macdonell <cam@cs.ualberta.ca>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] Shared memory uio_pci driver
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:12:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100331091250.GA31085@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB114AC.9040902@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:59:24PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/28/2010 10:48 PM, Cam Macdonell wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>    
>>> On 03/26/2010 07:14 PM, Cam Macdonell wrote:
>>>      
>>>>        
>>>>> I'm not familiar with the uio internals, but for the interface, an
>>>>> ioctl()
>>>>> on the fd to assign an eventfd to an MSI vector.  Similar to ioeventfd,
>>>>> but
>>>>> instead of mapping a doorbell to an eventfd, it maps a real MSI to an
>>>>> eventfd.
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> uio will never support ioctls.
>>>>        
>>> Why not?
>>>      
>> Perhaps I spoke too strongly, but it was rejected before
>>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/756481
>>
>> With a compelling case perhaps it could be added.
>>    
>
> Ah, the usual "ioctls are ugly, go away".
>
> It could be done via sysfs:
>
>   $ cat /sys/.../msix/max-interrupts
>   256

This one can be discovered with existing sysfs.

>   $ echo 4 > /sys/.../msix/allocate
>   $ # subdirectories 0 1 2 3 magically appear
>   $ # bind fd 13 to msix

There's no way to know, when qemu starts, how many vectors will be used
by driver.  So I think we can just go ahead and allocate as many vectors
as supported by device at the moment when the first eventfd is bound.

>   $ echo 13 > /sys/.../msix/2/bind-fd

I think that this one can't work, both fd 13 and sysfs file will get
closed when /bin/echo process exits.

>   $ # from now on, msix interrupt 2 will call eventfd_signal() on fd 13
>
> Call me old fashioned, but I prefer ioctls.

I think we will have to use ioctl or irqcontrol because of lifetime
issues outlines above.

> -- 
> Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Cam Macdonell <cam@cs.ualberta.ca>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] Shared memory uio_pci driver
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:12:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100331091250.GA31085@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB114AC.9040902@redhat.com>

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:59:24PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/28/2010 10:48 PM, Cam Macdonell wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>    
>>> On 03/26/2010 07:14 PM, Cam Macdonell wrote:
>>>      
>>>>        
>>>>> I'm not familiar with the uio internals, but for the interface, an
>>>>> ioctl()
>>>>> on the fd to assign an eventfd to an MSI vector.  Similar to ioeventfd,
>>>>> but
>>>>> instead of mapping a doorbell to an eventfd, it maps a real MSI to an
>>>>> eventfd.
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>> uio will never support ioctls.
>>>>        
>>> Why not?
>>>      
>> Perhaps I spoke too strongly, but it was rejected before
>>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/756481
>>
>> With a compelling case perhaps it could be added.
>>    
>
> Ah, the usual "ioctls are ugly, go away".
>
> It could be done via sysfs:
>
>   $ cat /sys/.../msix/max-interrupts
>   256

This one can be discovered with existing sysfs.

>   $ echo 4 > /sys/.../msix/allocate
>   $ # subdirectories 0 1 2 3 magically appear
>   $ # bind fd 13 to msix

There's no way to know, when qemu starts, how many vectors will be used
by driver.  So I think we can just go ahead and allocate as many vectors
as supported by device at the moment when the first eventfd is bound.

>   $ echo 13 > /sys/.../msix/2/bind-fd

I think that this one can't work, both fd 13 and sysfs file will get
closed when /bin/echo process exits.

>   $ # from now on, msix interrupt 2 will call eventfd_signal() on fd 13
>
> Call me old fashioned, but I prefer ioctls.

I think we will have to use ioctl or irqcontrol because of lifetime
issues outlines above.

> -- 
> Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-31  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-25  6:09 [PATCH v3 1/1] Shared memory uio_pci driver Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25  6:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25  9:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:05   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:47   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:47     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:30   ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:30     ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:34       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 17:07       ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 17:07         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:36   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:36     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:51       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:51         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:40   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:40     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:44     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:44     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:44       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:58       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:58         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 10:07         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 10:07           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 10:07         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25  9:58       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:40   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:18   ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:23     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:23     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:23       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:32       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:32       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:32         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:40           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:50           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:50             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:50           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:33         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:18   ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25  9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  9:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:24   ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-25 16:35     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:35       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 16:14       ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-26 16:14         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-27 17:48         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-27 17:48           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-28  7:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-28  7:47             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-28  8:02             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-28  8:02               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-28  9:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-28  9:40                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-28  9:45                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-28  9:45                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-28 10:31                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-28 10:31                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-28 11:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-28 11:12                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-28 13:28                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-28 13:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-28 13:47                         ` malc
2010-03-28 13:47                           ` malc
2010-03-28 19:48           ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-28 19:48             ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-03-29 20:59             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-29 20:59               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-30 14:52               ` Cam Macdonell
2010-03-30 14:52                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cam Macdonell
2010-04-01  8:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01  8:59                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-31  9:12               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-03-31  9:12                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-01  8:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01  8:58                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 10:59                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-01 10:59                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-04-01 11:27                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-01 11:27                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 16:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-25 16:42       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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