* line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? @ 2010-04-01 13:19 Lars Schotte 2010-04-01 13:23 ` Alex Austin 2010-04-01 13:47 ` Clemens Ladisch 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Lars Schotte @ 2010-04-01 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org hi folks, i ve given up on that problems w/ recording because it leads to LQ recordings in the best case. so does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing? frankly, as long as it would work money isnt important but on the other hand it doesnt need to be 192 kHz one for >100 eur. so as long as the card does record HQ in 44/48 kHz would be perfectly OK and the cheaper, the better. thanks. -- ------------------- Lars Schotte @ romy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? 2010-04-01 13:19 line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? Lars Schotte @ 2010-04-01 13:23 ` Alex Austin 2010-04-01 13:41 ` Lars Schotte 2010-04-01 13:47 ` Clemens Ladisch 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Alex Austin @ 2010-04-01 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Schotte; +Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Find an inexpensive card with an ICE1712. The chip is now made by VIA, but it has excellent analog and digital performance and good ALSA support. On Apr 1, 2010 8:19 AM, "Lars Schotte" <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de> wrote: hi folks, i ve given up on that problems w/ recording because it leads to LQ recordings in the best case. so does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for digitalizing? frankly, as long as it would work money isnt important but on the other hand it doesnt need to be 192 kHz one for >100 eur. so as long as the card does record HQ in 44/48 kHz would be perfectly OK and the cheaper, the better. thanks. -- ------------------- Lars Schotte @ romy _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? 2010-04-01 13:23 ` Alex Austin @ 2010-04-01 13:41 ` Lars Schotte 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Lars Schotte @ 2010-04-01 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel is ICE 1723 OK too? On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:54 -0600 Alex Austin <circuitsoft.alex@gmail.com> wrote: > Find an inexpensive card with an ICE1712. The chip is now made by > VIA, but it has excellent analog and digital performance and good > ALSA support. > > On Apr 1, 2010 8:19 AM, "Lars Schotte" <lars.schotte@schotteweb.de> > wrote: > > hi folks, > i ve given up on that problems w/ recording because it leads to LQ > recordings in the best case. so does anybody have a suggestion for a > sound card PCI-internal that works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in > that can be used for digitalizing? > frankly, as long as it would work money isnt important but on the > other hand it doesnt need to be 192 kHz one for >100 eur. so as long > as the card does record HQ in 44/48 kHz would be perfectly OK and the > cheaper, the better. > > thanks. > > -- > ------------------- > Lars Schotte @ romy > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-devel mailing list > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-devel mailing list > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel -- ------------------- Lars Schotte @ romy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? 2010-04-01 13:19 line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? Lars Schotte 2010-04-01 13:23 ` Alex Austin @ 2010-04-01 13:47 ` Clemens Ladisch 2010-04-01 14:01 ` Lars Schotte 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2010-04-01 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Schotte; +Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Lars Schotte wrote: > does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that > works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for > digitalizing? There aren't that many PCI chipsets. The CMI8738/8768/8770 chips have the DACs and ADCs integrated and aren't very good (although the 68/70 are noticeably better). The ICE1712/1724, CA0106, X-Fi and CMI8788 chips are purely digital and must be combined with separate DAC/ADC chips, which usually are quite good. The X-Fi is not supported very well. The CA0106 is supported, and used on several cheap Sound Blaster cards, e.g. the SB 5.1 VX. The ICE1712/ ICE1724 chips are used in many models; see the .h files in <http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=tree;f=sound/pci/ice1712;hb=HEAD>. (The "ICE1723" is a low-end model, and I don't know if it's supported at all). The CMI8788 is used on the Asus Xonar cards; the D1/DX/D2/D2X/ST/ STX are supported; the DS is partially supported in the latest kernel. Regards, Clemens ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? 2010-04-01 13:47 ` Clemens Ladisch @ 2010-04-01 14:01 ` Lars Schotte 2010-04-01 15:20 ` Clemens Ladisch 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lars Schotte @ 2010-04-01 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel WOW, thanks for these suggestions and informations a lot, because that saved me really a lot of trouble. so from that what you are telling me here I can get the SB 5.1 VX, like I wrote in the mail to you, and of course the much more expensive Asus Xonar would be no problem at all. The ICE1712/1724, I cant get at all and CA0106, I dont know what it is. so the question now is, which of these two - SB 5.1 VX or Asus Xonar. I have a debian stable (lenny) w/ 2.6.26 old kernel and I would prefer if the card were already supported by that kernel, so I dont need to make any changes to the system any more. thanks again Clemens, I appreciate your time and awaiting the definitive suggestion now, so we can solve the problem here. (I maybe get also some card for me according to these inf. Now I am doing it for a friend who wants to digitalize a lot of his audio, so it would be nice to surprise him positively by linux and ALSA and everything around OSSoft.) On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:47:58 +0200 Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de> wrote: > Lars Schotte wrote: > > does anybody have a suggestion for a sound card PCI-internal that > > works w/ ALSA and records HQ from line-in that can be used for > > digitalizing? > > There aren't that many PCI chipsets. The CMI8738/8768/8770 chips have > the DACs and ADCs integrated and aren't very good (although the 68/70 > are noticeably better). The ICE1712/1724, CA0106, X-Fi and CMI8788 > chips are purely digital and must be combined with separate DAC/ADC > chips, which usually are quite good. > > The X-Fi is not supported very well. The CA0106 is supported, and > used on several cheap Sound Blaster cards, e.g. the SB 5.1 VX. The > ICE1712/ ICE1724 chips are used in many models; see the .h files in > <http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=tree;f=sound/pci/ice1712;hb=HEAD>. > (The "ICE1723" is a low-end model, and I don't know if it's supported > at all). The CMI8788 is used on the Asus Xonar cards; the > D1/DX/D2/D2X/ST/ STX are supported; the DS is partially supported in > the latest kernel. > > > Regards, > Clemens > _______________________________________________ > Alsa-devel mailing list > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel -- ------------------- Lars Schotte @ romy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: line in recording w/ alsa - suggestions for a snd card? 2010-04-01 14:01 ` Lars Schotte @ 2010-04-01 15:20 ` Clemens Ladisch 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2010-04-01 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Schotte; +Cc: alsa-devel Lars Schotte wrote: > CA0106 is supported, but I looked at the website and there is: > http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Creative_Labs > CA0106 > Details [PCI] Digital/Analog input does not work yet. > Needs more development work. > > so ... that seems like line in doesnt work yet, but on the unofficial > http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Ca0106 > is " > Capture from MIC an LINE IN input. > " > so looks like that already works, but maybe recently. The opensrc.org entry is newer. However, the snd-ca0106 driver doesn't know the VX model; there are reports that playback on the VX does not work at all (white noise) unless the card was initialized by the Windows driver, then rebooted into Linux. > so the question now is, which of these two - SB 5.1 VX or Asus Xonar. > I have a debian stable (lenny) w/ 2.6.26 old kernel and I would prefer > if the card were already supported by that kernel, so I dont need to > make any changes to the system any more. The Xonar D1 has a not-buggy driver since 2.6.27. I don't know Debian, but it looks as if newer backported kernels are available. HTH Clemens ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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