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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:13:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100407081351.GA20322@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g2q28c262361004070106le671ad63u965e8137ad2e4f41@mail.gmail.com>

Minchan,

> A few month ago, I saw your patch about enhancing readahead.
> At that time, many guys tested several size of USB and SSD which are
> consist of nand device.
> The result is good if we does readahead untile some crossover point.
> So I think we need readahead about file I/O in non-rotation device, too.
> 
> But startup latency is important than file I/O performance in some machine.
> With analysis at that time, code readahead of application affected slow startup.
> In addition, during bootup, cache hit ratio was very small.
> 
> So I hoped we can disable readahead just only code section(ie, roughly
> exec vma's filemap fault). :)
> 
> I don't want you to solve this problem right now.
> Just let you understand embedded system's some problem
> for enhancing readahead in future.  :)

Yeah, I've never heard of such a demand, definitely good to know it!

Thanks,
Fengguang

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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:13:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100407081351.GA20322@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g2q28c262361004070106le671ad63u965e8137ad2e4f41@mail.gmail.com>

Minchan,

> A few month ago, I saw your patch about enhancing readahead.
> At that time, many guys tested several size of USB and SSD which are
> consist of nand device.
> The result is good if we does readahead untile some crossover point.
> So I think we need readahead about file I/O in non-rotation device, too.
> 
> But startup latency is important than file I/O performance in some machine.
> With analysis at that time, code readahead of application affected slow startup.
> In addition, during bootup, cache hit ratio was very small.
> 
> So I hoped we can disable readahead just only code section(ie, roughly
> exec vma's filemap fault). :)
> 
> I don't want you to solve this problem right now.
> Just let you understand embedded system's some problem
> for enhancing readahead in future.  :)

Yeah, I've never heard of such a demand, definitely good to know it!

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-07  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-05 22:43 Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup Taras Glek
2010-04-05 23:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-05 23:52 ` Roland Dreier
2010-04-06 22:09   ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06  9:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06  9:51   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 21:57   ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 21:57     ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 22:26     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 22:26       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 22:39       ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 22:39         ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07  2:24   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  2:24     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  2:54     ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07  2:54       ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07  4:06       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07  4:06         ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07  7:14         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  7:14           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  7:33           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07  7:33             ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07  7:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  7:47               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  8:06               ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07  8:06                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07  8:13                 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-04-07  8:13                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  7:38       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07  7:38         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-08 17:44         ` Taras Glek
2010-04-08 17:44           ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12  2:27           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12  2:27             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12  3:25             ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-12  3:25               ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-12  4:58               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12  4:58                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12  4:43             ` drepper
2010-04-12  4:46               ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12  4:46                 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12  4:50               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12  4:50                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12  8:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-15 23:21   ` Zan Lynx
2010-04-15 20:42     ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-16 11:41     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 12:23       ` Theodore Tso
2010-04-16 12:23       ` Theodore Tso
2010-04-16  0:41   ` Taras Glek
2010-04-15 22:21     ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-16  2:37       ` Taras Glek
2010-04-16 11:40   ` Andi Kleen

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