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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Matt Reimer <mattjreimer@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	"linux-pm" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen?
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:17:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201004230717.07086.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y2yf383264b1004221640rd1fca614zfa15d7e7984ab3ba@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 23 April 2010, Matt Reimer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> > My thought exactly.  This is the only approach that also solves the
> >> > following race:
> >> >
> >> >     A driver is unloaded at the same time as a suspend starts.
> >> >
> >> >     The writeback thread gets frozen.
> >> >
> >> >     Then before the rmmod thread is frozen, it calls del_gendisk.
> >> >
> >> > Delaying things by means of a workqueue (or the equivalent) might also
> >> > work, but it doesn't seem as safe.  For example, some important
> >> > writebacks might end up getting delayed until too late.
> >
> > Delaying writebacks during sleep should be ok... That's why we do
> > sync() after userspace is frozen -- nothing really important should be
> > waiting for writeback after that point.
> 
> Has this been fixed,

No, it hasn't.

> or has a consensus about how to fix this been
> achieved? I'm hitting the same problem and have some time to work on a
> fix.

Generally, it looks like del_gendisk should thaw writeback threads, but not
during suspend, only during resume.

Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-23  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-13 13:29 Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen? Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-13 13:29 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 16:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 16:00 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-15 21:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-15 21:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-16 16:27     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-16 16:27     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-20 22:22       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-20 22:22         ` [linux-pm] " Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-23 12:33       ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 15:29         ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 15:29         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-23 15:58           ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 15:58           ` [linux-pm] " Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 16:33             ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:16               ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 15:59                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 15:59                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-24 19:12                   ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 19:12                   ` [linux-pm] " Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 20:19                     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 20:19                     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:16               ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 16:33             ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 16:42             ` Testing for dirty buffers on a block device Alan Stern
2010-02-23 16:42             ` Alan Stern
2010-02-23 22:13               ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-23 22:13               ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 15:51                 ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 19:09                   ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 19:09                   ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-24 20:09                     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-25  8:20                       ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-25  8:20                       ` Jens Axboe
2010-02-25 22:19                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-25 22:19                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-24 20:09                     ` Alan Stern
2010-02-24 15:51                 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-01  6:35           ` [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen? Pavel Machek
2010-03-01 15:23             ` Alan Stern
2010-03-03 21:50               ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-03 21:50               ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-03-03 22:23                 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-03 22:23                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-03-04  0:23                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04  2:48                     ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 19:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 19:36                         ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04 19:36                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-03-04 20:04                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 20:04                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 20:15                         ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 20:15                           ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-04-22 23:40                           ` Matt Reimer
2010-04-22 23:40                           ` [linux-pm] " Matt Reimer
2010-04-23  5:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-23  5:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-05-11 23:55                               ` [linux-pm] " Matt Reimer
2010-05-12 14:50                                 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 14:50                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-05-13 21:44                                   ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 21:54                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 22:20                                       ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 22:20                                       ` [linux-pm] " Matt Reimer
2010-05-13 22:47                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-13 22:47                                         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-15  2:37                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15  2:53                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:35                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 19:35                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-15  2:53                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-15  2:37                                           ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15  2:32                                         ` Alan Stern
2010-05-15  2:32                                         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-05-15 20:30                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16  7:49                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:38                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16 21:32                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17  2:22                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-05-17  7:45                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17  7:45                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17 20:35                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17 22:51                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-17 22:51                                                         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-18 19:43                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 19:43                                                           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-18 20:06                                                             ` Alan Stern
2010-05-18 20:06                                                             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-05-24 19:02                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-24 21:21                                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-24 21:21                                                             ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-24 19:02                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-17 20:35                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-17  2:22                                                   ` Alan Stern
2010-05-16 21:32                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-16 19:38                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-16  7:49                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-05-15 20:30                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-13 21:54                                     ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 21:44                                   ` Matt Reimer
2010-05-11 23:55                               ` Matt Reimer
2010-03-04 19:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04  2:48                     ` Alan Stern
2010-03-04  0:23                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-04 13:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-04 13:53                   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-06-04 11:20                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 14:59                       ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04 14:59                       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-06-04 15:19                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 17:52                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04 17:52                           ` Alan Stern
2010-06-04 15:19                         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 11:20                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-03-01 15:23             ` Alan Stern
2010-03-01  6:35           ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-23 12:33       ` Jens Axboe

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