From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] inode: Make unused inode LRU per superblock
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:54:18 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527225418.GP12087@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527133230.780be6c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 01:32:30PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:53:04 +1000
> Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> >
> > The inode unused list is currently a global LRU. This does not match
> > the other global filesystem cache - the dentry cache - which uses
> > per-superblock LRU lists. Hence we have related filesystem object
> > types using different LRU reclaimatin schemes.
> >
> > To enable a per-superblock filesystem cache shrinker, both of these
> > caches need to have per-sb unused object LRU lists. Hence this patch
> > converts the global inode LRU to per-sb LRUs.
> >
> > The patch only does rudimentary per-sb propotioning in the shrinker
> > infrastructure, as this gets removed when the per-sb shrinker
> > callouts are introduced later on.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > + list_move(&inode->i_list, &inode->i_sb->s_inode_lru);
>
> It's a shape that s_inode_lru is still protected by inode_lock. One
> day we're going to get in trouble over that lock. Migrating to a
> per-sb lock would be logical and might help.
>
> Did you look into this?
Yes, I have. Yes, it's possible. It's solving a different problem,
so I figured it can be done in a different patch set.
> I expect we'd end up taking both inode_lock
> and the new sb->lru_lock in several places, which wouldn't be of any
> help, at least in the interim. Long-term, the locking for
> fs-writeback.c should move to the per-superblock one also, at which
> time this problem largely goes away I think. Unfortunately the
> writeback inode lists got moved into the backing_dev_info, whcih messes
> things up a bit.
*nod*
>
> > inodes_stat.nr_unused--;
> > + inode->i_sb->s_nr_inodes_unused--;
>
> It's regrettable to be counting the same thing twice. Did you look
> into removing (or no longer using) inodes_stat.nr_unused?
Sort of. The complexity is the stats are userspace visible, so they
can't just be removed. Replacing the current stats means that when
they are read from /proc we would need to walk all the superblocks
to aggregate them. The bit I haven't looked at yet is whether
walking superblocks is allowed in a proc handler.
So in the mean time, I just copied what was done for the
dentry_stats. If it's ok to do this walk, then we can change both
the dentry and inode stats at the same time.
> > + /* Now, we reclaim unused dentrins with fairness.
>
> May as well fix the typo while we're there.
>
> Please review all these comments to ensure that they are still accurate
> and complete.
Will do.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
_______________________________________________
xfs mailing list
xfs@oss.sgi.com
http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] inode: Make unused inode LRU per superblock
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:54:18 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527225418.GP12087@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527133230.780be6c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 01:32:30PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:53:04 +1000
> Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> >
> > The inode unused list is currently a global LRU. This does not match
> > the other global filesystem cache - the dentry cache - which uses
> > per-superblock LRU lists. Hence we have related filesystem object
> > types using different LRU reclaimatin schemes.
> >
> > To enable a per-superblock filesystem cache shrinker, both of these
> > caches need to have per-sb unused object LRU lists. Hence this patch
> > converts the global inode LRU to per-sb LRUs.
> >
> > The patch only does rudimentary per-sb propotioning in the shrinker
> > infrastructure, as this gets removed when the per-sb shrinker
> > callouts are introduced later on.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > + list_move(&inode->i_list, &inode->i_sb->s_inode_lru);
>
> It's a shape that s_inode_lru is still protected by inode_lock. One
> day we're going to get in trouble over that lock. Migrating to a
> per-sb lock would be logical and might help.
>
> Did you look into this?
Yes, I have. Yes, it's possible. It's solving a different problem,
so I figured it can be done in a different patch set.
> I expect we'd end up taking both inode_lock
> and the new sb->lru_lock in several places, which wouldn't be of any
> help, at least in the interim. Long-term, the locking for
> fs-writeback.c should move to the per-superblock one also, at which
> time this problem largely goes away I think. Unfortunately the
> writeback inode lists got moved into the backing_dev_info, whcih messes
> things up a bit.
*nod*
>
> > inodes_stat.nr_unused--;
> > + inode->i_sb->s_nr_inodes_unused--;
>
> It's regrettable to be counting the same thing twice. Did you look
> into removing (or no longer using) inodes_stat.nr_unused?
Sort of. The complexity is the stats are userspace visible, so they
can't just be removed. Replacing the current stats means that when
they are read from /proc we would need to walk all the superblocks
to aggregate them. The bit I haven't looked at yet is whether
walking superblocks is allowed in a proc handler.
So in the mean time, I just copied what was done for the
dentry_stats. If it's ok to do this walk, then we can change both
the dentry and inode stats at the same time.
> > + /* Now, we reclaim unused dentrins with fairness.
>
> May as well fix the typo while we're there.
>
> Please review all these comments to ensure that they are still accurate
> and complete.
Will do.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] inode: Make unused inode LRU per superblock
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:54:18 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527225418.GP12087@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527133230.780be6c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 01:32:30PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:53:04 +1000
> Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> >
> > The inode unused list is currently a global LRU. This does not match
> > the other global filesystem cache - the dentry cache - which uses
> > per-superblock LRU lists. Hence we have related filesystem object
> > types using different LRU reclaimatin schemes.
> >
> > To enable a per-superblock filesystem cache shrinker, both of these
> > caches need to have per-sb unused object LRU lists. Hence this patch
> > converts the global inode LRU to per-sb LRUs.
> >
> > The patch only does rudimentary per-sb propotioning in the shrinker
> > infrastructure, as this gets removed when the per-sb shrinker
> > callouts are introduced later on.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > + list_move(&inode->i_list, &inode->i_sb->s_inode_lru);
>
> It's a shape that s_inode_lru is still protected by inode_lock. One
> day we're going to get in trouble over that lock. Migrating to a
> per-sb lock would be logical and might help.
>
> Did you look into this?
Yes, I have. Yes, it's possible. It's solving a different problem,
so I figured it can be done in a different patch set.
> I expect we'd end up taking both inode_lock
> and the new sb->lru_lock in several places, which wouldn't be of any
> help, at least in the interim. Long-term, the locking for
> fs-writeback.c should move to the per-superblock one also, at which
> time this problem largely goes away I think. Unfortunately the
> writeback inode lists got moved into the backing_dev_info, whcih messes
> things up a bit.
*nod*
>
> > inodes_stat.nr_unused--;
> > + inode->i_sb->s_nr_inodes_unused--;
>
> It's regrettable to be counting the same thing twice. Did you look
> into removing (or no longer using) inodes_stat.nr_unused?
Sort of. The complexity is the stats are userspace visible, so they
can't just be removed. Replacing the current stats means that when
they are read from /proc we would need to walk all the superblocks
to aggregate them. The bit I haven't looked at yet is whether
walking superblocks is allowed in a proc handler.
So in the mean time, I just copied what was done for the
dentry_stats. If it's ok to do this walk, then we can change both
the dentry and inode stats at the same time.
> > + /* Now, we reclaim unused dentrins with fairness.
>
> May as well fix the typo while we're there.
>
> Please review all these comments to ensure that they are still accurate
> and complete.
Will do.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-27 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-25 8:53 [PATCH 0/5] Per superblock shrinkers V2 Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` [PATCH 1/5] inode: Make unused inode LRU per superblock Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 16:17 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:17 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:17 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:02 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 22:54 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-05-27 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-28 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-28 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 8:53 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: add context argument to shrinker callback Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` [PATCH 3/5] superblock: introduce per-sb cache shrinker infrastructure Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 16:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 23:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 1:53 ` [PATCH 3/5 v2] " Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 1:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 1:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:01 ` Al Viro
2010-05-27 4:01 ` Al Viro
2010-05-27 4:01 ` Al Viro
2010-05-27 6:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 6:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 6:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 6:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 6:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 6:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:19 ` [PATCH 3/5] " Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 2:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:07 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:07 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:07 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 4:24 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:24 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 4:24 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 6:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 6:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 6:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 6:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 22:40 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 22:40 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 22:40 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 22:40 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-28 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-28 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-28 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 6:39 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 6:39 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 6:39 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 6:39 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 23:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` [PATCH 4/5] superblock: add filesystem shrinker operations Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-25 8:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] xfs: make use of new shrinker callout Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 16:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] Per superblock shrinkers V2 Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:44 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 16:44 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-28 0:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28 0:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28 0:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28 7:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-28 7:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-28 7:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-28 7:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-02 12:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-02 12:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-02 12:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-12 2:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12 2:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12 2:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12 2:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-12 2:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-12 2:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-14 7:24 [PATCH 0/5] Per-superblock shrinkers Dave Chinner
2010-05-14 7:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] inode: Make unused inode LRU per superblock Dave Chinner
2010-05-14 7:24 ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14 7:24 ` Dave Chinner
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20100527225418.GP12087@dastard \
--to=david@fromorbit.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=xfs@oss.sgi.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.