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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] perf: Provide a proper stop action for software events
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:54:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100610195451.GI5255@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1276186576.2077.554.camel@twins>

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 06:16:16PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 18:12 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 12:46 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Something like the below would work, the only 'problem' is that it grows
> > > > hw_perf_event.
> > > 
> > > If we do the whole PAUSEd thing right, we'd not need this I think.
> > 
> > 
> > It's not needed, and moreover software_pmu:stop/start() can be the same
> > than software:pmu:disable/enable() without the need to add another check
> > in the fast path.
> > 
> > But we need perf_event_stop/start() to work on software events. And in fact
> > now that we use the hlist_del_init, it's safe, but a bit wasteful in
> > the period reset path. That's another problem that is not critical, but
> > if you want to solve this by ripping the differences between software and
> > hardware (which I agree with), we need a ->reset_period callback.
> > 
> Why? ->start() should reprogram the hardware, so a
> ->stop()/poke-at-state/->start() cycle is much more flexible.


Reconsidering the situation after remembering the race with software
events on period adjusting:

In fact, if we want to support start/stop on software events, we still
need the if (!software event) in perf_adjust_period(), otherwise
start and stop may race on a software event with the hlist ops.

So it's now both useless and dangerous.

What about keeping this software event check for now?
Once we'll have a pmu:disable_all()/enable_all(), this
can serve as a more appropriate check later.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-10 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-10  3:49 [PATCH 0/5] perf events finer grained context instrumentation / context exclusion Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10  3:49 ` [PATCH 1/5] perf: Provide a proper stop action for software events Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 10:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 11:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 16:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 16:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 16:29           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 16:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 17:04               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 19:54           ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-06-10 12:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-10  3:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] perf: Support disable() after stop() on " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 10:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 16:31     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10  3:49 ` [PATCH 3/5] perf: New PERF_EVENT_STATE_PAUSED event state Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 10:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 16:26     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10  3:49 ` [PATCH 4/5] perf: Introduce task, softirq and hardirq contexts exclusion Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 11:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-10 16:24     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10  3:49 ` [PATCH 5/5] perf: Support for task/softirq/hardirq exclusion on tools Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10  6:26 ` [PATCH 0/5] perf events finer grained context instrumentation / context exclusion Ingo Molnar
2010-06-10  7:15   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10  7:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-10 10:16     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-10 17:03       ` Frederic Weisbecker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-12  7:34 [PATCH 0/5 v3] " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-12  7:34 ` [PATCH 1/5] perf: Provide a proper stop action for software events Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-12  9:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-12 16:25     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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