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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:29:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100611162912.GC24707@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608092814.GB27717@csn.ul.ie>

On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 10:28:14AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >  - we also need to care about ->releasepage.  At least for XFS it
> >    can end up in the same deep allocator chain as ->writepage because
> >    it does all the extent state conversions, even if it doesn't
> >    start I/O. 
> 
> Dang.
> 
> >    I haven't managed yet to decode the ext4/btrfs codepaths
> >    for ->releasepage yet to figure out how they release a page that
> >    covers a delayed allocated or unwritten range.
> > 
> 
> If ext4/btrfs are also very deep call-chains and this series is going more
> or less the right direction, then avoiding calling ->releasepage from direct
> reclaim is one, somewhat unfortunate, option. The second is to avoid it on
> a per-filesystem basis for direct reclaim using PF_MEMALLOC to detect
> reclaimers and PF_KSWAPD to tell the difference between direct
> reclaimers and kswapd.

I went throught this a bit more and I can't actually hit that code in
XFS ->releasepage anymore.  I've also audited the caller and can't see
how we could theoretically hit it anymore.  Do the VM gurus know a case
where we would call ->releasepage on a page that's actually dirty and
hasn't been through block_invalidatepage before?


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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:29:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100611162912.GC24707@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608092814.GB27717@csn.ul.ie>

On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 10:28:14AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >  - we also need to care about ->releasepage.  At least for XFS it
> >    can end up in the same deep allocator chain as ->writepage because
> >    it does all the extent state conversions, even if it doesn't
> >    start I/O. 
> 
> Dang.
> 
> >    I haven't managed yet to decode the ext4/btrfs codepaths
> >    for ->releasepage yet to figure out how they release a page that
> >    covers a delayed allocated or unwritten range.
> > 
> 
> If ext4/btrfs are also very deep call-chains and this series is going more
> or less the right direction, then avoiding calling ->releasepage from direct
> reclaim is one, somewhat unfortunate, option. The second is to avoid it on
> a per-filesystem basis for direct reclaim using PF_MEMALLOC to detect
> reclaimers and PF_KSWAPD to tell the difference between direct
> reclaimers and kswapd.

I went throught this a bit more and I can't actually hit that code in
XFS ->releasepage anymore.  I've also audited the caller and can't see
how we could theoretically hit it anymore.  Do the VM gurus know a case
where we would call ->releasepage on a page that's actually dirty and
hasn't been through block_invalidatepage before?

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-11 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-08  9:02 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 1/6] tracing, vmscan: Add trace events for kswapd wakeup, sleeping and direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 2/6] tracing, vmscan: Add trace events for LRU page isolation Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 3/6] tracing, vmscan: Add trace event when a page is written Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 4/6] tracing, vmscan: Add a postprocessing script for reclaim-related ftrace events Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 5/6] vmscan: Write out ranges of pages contiguous to the inode where possible Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11  6:10   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11  6:10     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 12:49     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 12:49       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 19:07       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 19:07         ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 20:44         ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 20:44           ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 21:33           ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 21:33             ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-12  0:17             ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-12  0:17               ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 16:27       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 6/6] vmscan: Do not writeback pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11  6:17   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11  6:17     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 12:54     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 12:54       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 16:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 17:43       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 17:43         ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 17:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 17:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 18:13           ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 18:13             ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-08  9:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-08  9:28   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:28     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:29     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-06-11 16:29       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 18:15       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 18:15         ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 19:12       ` Chris Mason
2010-06-11 19:12         ` Chris Mason
2010-06-09  2:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-09  2:52   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-09  9:52   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-09  9:52     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-10  0:38     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10  0:38       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10  1:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-10  1:10         ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-10  1:29         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10  1:29           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11  5:57 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11  5:57   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 12:33   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 12:33     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 16:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 18:17       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 18:17         ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 14:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 14:00   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 14:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 14:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 14:22     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 14:22       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 14:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 14:43         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 15:08         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 15:08           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 15:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 15:25             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 15:45             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 15:45               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:26               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:26                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:31                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:31                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:49                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 16:49                   ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 16:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:54                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 19:13                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 19:13                       ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 19:17                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 19:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 19:44                         ` Chris Mason
2010-06-15 19:44                           ` Chris Mason
2010-06-16  7:57                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-16  7:57                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-16 16:59                         ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-16 16:59                           ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-16 17:04                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-16 17:04                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:54                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 16:54                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 15:38           ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 15:38             ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:14             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:14               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:22               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:22                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:30               ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:30                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:34                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:34                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:54                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:54                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:35                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:35                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:37                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:37                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 17:43                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 17:43                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 14:51   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 14:51     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 14:55     ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 14:55       ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 15:08     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 15:08       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 15:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 15:10         ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:28     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:28       ` Andrea Arcangeli

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