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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: rostedt@goodmis.org
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched: make sched_param arugment static variables in some sched_setscheduler() caller
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:02:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100706170220.f3219001.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278460187.1537.107.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:49:47 -0400 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:12 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > Well if we're so worried about resource wastage then how about making
> > all boot-time-only text and data reside in __init and __initdata
> > sections rather than hanging around uselessly in memory for ever?
> 
> That would be a patch I would like :-)
> 
> I could probably do that when I get some time.
> 
> > 
> > Only that's going to be hard because we went and added pointers into
> > .init.text from .data due to `struct tracer.selftest', which will cause
> > a storm of section mismatch warnings.  Doh, should have invoked the
> > selftests from initcalls.  That might open the opportunity of running
> > the selftests by modprobing the selftest module, too.
> 
> They are called by initcalls. The initcalls register the tracers and
> that is the time we call the selftest. No other time.

It should all be __init!

> Is there a way that we set up a function pointer to let the section
> checks know that it is only called at bootup?

<sticks his nose in modpost.c for the first time>

There are various whitelisting hacks in there based on the name of the
offending symbol.  Search term: DEFAULT_SYMBOL_WHITE_LIST.

It'd be cleaner to just zap the tracer.selftest field altogether and
run the tests from initcalls if possible?

> > 
> > And I _do_ wish the selftest module was modprobeable, rather than this
> > monstrosity:
> 
> The selftests are done by individual tracers at boot up. It would be
> hard to modprobe them at that time.

No, if tracer_selftest.o was linked into vmlinux then the tests get run
within do_initcalls().  If tracer_selftest.o is a module, then the tests
get run at modprobe-time.  The latter option may not be terribly useful
but it comes basically for free as a reward for doing stuff correctly.

> 
> > #ifdef CONFIG_FTRACE_SELFTEST
> > /* Let selftest have access to static functions in this file */
> > #include "trace_selftest.c"
> > #endif
> > 
> > Really?  Who had a tastebudectomy over there?  At least call it
> > trace_selftest.inc or something, so poor schmucks don't go scrabbling
> > around wondering "how the hell does this thing get built oh no they
> > didn't really go and #include it did they?"
> 
> 
> Well this is also the way sched.c adds all its extra code.

The sched.c hack sucks too.

> Making it
> trace_selftest.inc would make it hard to know what the hell it was.

trace_selftest.i_really_suck?

> And
> also hard for editors to know what type of file it is, or things can be
> missed with a 'find . -name "*.[ch]" | xargs grep blahblah'

Well bad luck.  Of _course_ it makes a mess.  It's already a mess.

How's about just removing the `static' from whichever symbols
tracer_selftest needs?  That'd surely be better than #including a .c
file.

> Yes, the self tests are ugly and can probably go with an overhaul. Since
> we are trying to get away from the tracer plugins anyway, they will
> start disappearing when the plugins do.
> 
> We should have some main selftests anyway. Those are for the TRACE_EVENT
> tests (which are not even in the trace_selftest.c file, and the function
> testing which currently are, as well as the latency testers.
> 
> The trace_selftest.c should eventually be replaced with more compact
> tests for the specific types of tracing.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: rostedt@goodmis.org
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched: make sched_param arugment static variables in some sched_setscheduler() caller
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:02:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100706170220.f3219001.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278460187.1537.107.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:49:47 -0400 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:12 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > Well if we're so worried about resource wastage then how about making
> > all boot-time-only text and data reside in __init and __initdata
> > sections rather than hanging around uselessly in memory for ever?
> 
> That would be a patch I would like :-)
> 
> I could probably do that when I get some time.
> 
> > 
> > Only that's going to be hard because we went and added pointers into
> > .init.text from .data due to `struct tracer.selftest', which will cause
> > a storm of section mismatch warnings.  Doh, should have invoked the
> > selftests from initcalls.  That might open the opportunity of running
> > the selftests by modprobing the selftest module, too.
> 
> They are called by initcalls. The initcalls register the tracers and
> that is the time we call the selftest. No other time.

It should all be __init!

> Is there a way that we set up a function pointer to let the section
> checks know that it is only called at bootup?

<sticks his nose in modpost.c for the first time>

There are various whitelisting hacks in there based on the name of the
offending symbol.  Search term: DEFAULT_SYMBOL_WHITE_LIST.

It'd be cleaner to just zap the tracer.selftest field altogether and
run the tests from initcalls if possible?

> > 
> > And I _do_ wish the selftest module was modprobeable, rather than this
> > monstrosity:
> 
> The selftests are done by individual tracers at boot up. It would be
> hard to modprobe them at that time.

No, if tracer_selftest.o was linked into vmlinux then the tests get run
within do_initcalls().  If tracer_selftest.o is a module, then the tests
get run at modprobe-time.  The latter option may not be terribly useful
but it comes basically for free as a reward for doing stuff correctly.

> 
> > #ifdef CONFIG_FTRACE_SELFTEST
> > /* Let selftest have access to static functions in this file */
> > #include "trace_selftest.c"
> > #endif
> > 
> > Really?  Who had a tastebudectomy over there?  At least call it
> > trace_selftest.inc or something, so poor schmucks don't go scrabbling
> > around wondering "how the hell does this thing get built oh no they
> > didn't really go and #include it did they?"
> 
> 
> Well this is also the way sched.c adds all its extra code.

The sched.c hack sucks too.

> Making it
> trace_selftest.inc would make it hard to know what the hell it was.

trace_selftest.i_really_suck?

> And
> also hard for editors to know what type of file it is, or things can be
> missed with a 'find . -name "*.[ch]" | xargs grep blahblah'

Well bad luck.  Of _course_ it makes a mess.  It's already a mess.

How's about just removing the `static' from whichever symbols
tracer_selftest needs?  That'd surely be better than #including a .c
file.

> Yes, the self tests are ugly and can probably go with an overhaul. Since
> we are trying to get away from the tracer plugins anyway, they will
> start disappearing when the plugins do.
> 
> We should have some main selftests anyway. Those are for the TRACE_EVENT
> tests (which are not even in the trace_selftest.c file, and the function
> testing which currently are, as well as the latency testers.
> 
> The trace_selftest.c should eventually be replaced with more compact
> tests for the specific types of tracing.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-07  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-30  9:25 [mmotm 0611][PATCH 00/11] various OOM bugfixes v3 KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:27 ` [PATCH 01/11] oom: don't try to kill oom_unkillable child KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:27   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:27 ` [PATCH 02/11] oom: oom_kill_process() doesn't select kthread child KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:27   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 13:55   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 13:55     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-01  0:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-01  0:07       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-01 13:38       ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-01 13:38         ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30  9:28 ` [PATCH 03/11] oom: make oom_unkillable_task() helper function KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:28   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 14:19   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 14:19     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-01  0:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-01  0:07       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:29 ` [PATCH 04/11] oom: oom_kill_process() need to check p is unkillable KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:29   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 13:57   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 13:57     ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30  9:30 ` [PATCH 05/11] oom: /proc/<pid>/oom_score treat kernel thread honestly KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:30   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 14:03   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 14:03     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-01  0:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-01  0:07       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-01 14:36       ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-01 14:36         ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30  9:31 ` [PATCH 06/11] oom: kill duplicate OOM_DISABLE check KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 14:10   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 14:10     ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30  9:31 ` [PATCH 07/11] oom: move OOM_DISABLE check from oom_kill_task to out_of_memory() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 14:20   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 14:20     ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-01  0:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-01  0:07       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:32 ` [PATCH 08/11] oom: cleanup has_intersects_mems_allowed() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:32   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:32 ` [PATCH 09/11] oom: remove child->mm check from oom_kill_process() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:32   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 14:30   ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 14:30     ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30  9:33 ` [PATCH 10/11] oom: give the dying task a higher priority KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:33   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:35   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:35     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30 14:40     ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-30 14:40       ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-02 21:49   ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-02 21:49     ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-06  0:49     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-06  0:49       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-06  0:50       ` [PATCH 1/2] security: add const to security_task_setscheduler() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-06  0:50         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-06  0:51       ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: make sched_param arugment static variables in some sched_setscheduler() caller KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-06  0:51         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-06 22:13         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-06 22:13           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-06 23:12           ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-06 23:12             ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-06 23:49             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-06 23:49               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-07  0:02               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-07-07  0:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-07 19:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-07 19:43                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-30  9:34 ` [PATCH 11/11] oom: multi threaded process coredump don't make deadlock KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-30  9:34   ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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