From: Christopher Yeoh <cyeoh@au1.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Cross Memory Attach
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:50:19 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100915225019.4ca665fc@lilo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100915080235.GA13152@elte.hu>
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:02:35 +0200
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> What did those OpenMPI facilities use before your patch - shared
> memory or sockets?
This comparison is against OpenMPI using the shared memory btl.
> I have an observation about the interface:
>
> A small detail: 'int flags' should probably be 'unsigned long flags'
> - it leaves more space.
ok.
> Also, note that there is a further performance optimization possible
> here: if the other task's ->mm is the same as this task's (they share
> the MM), then the copy can be done straight in this process context,
> without GUP. User-space might not necessarily be aware of this so it
> might make sense to express this special case in the kernel too.
ok.
> More fundamentally, wouldnt it make sense to create an iovec
> interface here? If the Gather(v) / Scatter(v) / AlltoAll(v) workloads
> have any fragmentation on the user-space buffer side then the copy of
> multiple areas could be done in a single syscall. (the MM lock has to
> be touched only once, target task only be looked up only once, etc.)
yes, I think so. Currently where I'm using the interface in OpenMPI I
can't take advantage of this, but it could be changed in the future- and
its likely other MPI's could take advantage of it already.
> Plus, a small naming detail, shouldnt the naming be more IO like:
>
> sys_process_vm_read()
> sys_process_vm_write()
Yes, that looks better to me. I really wasn't sure how to name them.
Regards,
Chris
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From: Christopher Yeoh <cyeoh@au1.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Cross Memory Attach
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:50:19 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100915225019.4ca665fc@lilo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100915080235.GA13152@elte.hu>
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:02:35 +0200
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> What did those OpenMPI facilities use before your patch - shared
> memory or sockets?
This comparison is against OpenMPI using the shared memory btl.
> I have an observation about the interface:
>
> A small detail: 'int flags' should probably be 'unsigned long flags'
> - it leaves more space.
ok.
> Also, note that there is a further performance optimization possible
> here: if the other task's ->mm is the same as this task's (they share
> the MM), then the copy can be done straight in this process context,
> without GUP. User-space might not necessarily be aware of this so it
> might make sense to express this special case in the kernel too.
ok.
> More fundamentally, wouldnt it make sense to create an iovec
> interface here? If the Gather(v) / Scatter(v) / AlltoAll(v) workloads
> have any fragmentation on the user-space buffer side then the copy of
> multiple areas could be done in a single syscall. (the MM lock has to
> be touched only once, target task only be looked up only once, etc.)
yes, I think so. Currently where I'm using the interface in OpenMPI I
can't take advantage of this, but it could be changed in the future- and
its likely other MPI's could take advantage of it already.
> Plus, a small naming detail, shouldnt the naming be more IO like:
>
> sys_process_vm_read()
> sys_process_vm_write()
Yes, that looks better to me. I really wasn't sure how to name them.
Regards,
Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-15 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-15 1:18 [RFC][PATCH] Cross Memory Attach Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 13:23 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 13:23 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 13:20 ` Christopher Yeoh [this message]
2010-09-15 13:20 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 10:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 10:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 14:42 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 14:42 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 14:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-15 14:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-15 15:44 ` Robin Holt
2010-09-15 15:44 ` Robin Holt
2010-09-16 6:32 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 6:32 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 9:15 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 9:15 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 14:00 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 14:00 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 14:46 ` Bryan Donlan
2010-09-15 14:46 ` Bryan Donlan
2010-09-15 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-15 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-16 1:18 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 1:18 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-16 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-02 3:37 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-11-02 3:37 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-11-02 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-02 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-16 1:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 1:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-16 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 15:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-15 15:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 2:25 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-16 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 17:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-16 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 17:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-16 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-19 4:44 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-19 19:20 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-19 21:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-19 22:47 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-19 4:55 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-15 16:07 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-09-16 2:17 ` Christopher Yeoh
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