From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Christopher Yeoh <cyeoh@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Cross Memory Attach
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:58:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C90A6C7.9050607@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100915104855.41de3ebf@lilo>
On 09/15/2010 03:18 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote:
> The basic idea behind cross memory attach is to allow MPI programs doing
> intra-node communication to do a single copy of the message rather than
> a double copy of the message via shared memory.
If the host has a dma engine (many modern ones do) you can reduce this
to zero copies (at least, zero processor copies).
> The following patch attempts to achieve this by allowing a
> destination process, given an address and size from a source process, to
> copy memory directly from the source process into its own address space
> via a system call. There is also a symmetrical ability to copy from
> the current process's address space into a destination process's
> address space.
>
>
Instead of those two syscalls, how about a vmfd(pid_t pid, ulong start,
ulong len) system call which returns an file descriptor that represents
a portion of the process address space. You can then use preadv() and
pwritev() to copy memory, and io_submit(IO_CMD_PREADV) and
io_submit(IO_CMD_PWRITEV) for asynchronous variants (especially useful
with a dma engine, since that adds latency).
With some care (and use of mmu_notifiers) you can even mmap() your vmfd
and access remote process memory directly.
A nice property of file descriptors is that you can pass them around
securely via SCM_RIGHTS. So a process can create a window into its
address space and pass it to other processes.
(or you could just use a shared memory object and pass it around)
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Christopher Yeoh <cyeoh@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Cross Memory Attach
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:58:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C90A6C7.9050607@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100915104855.41de3ebf@lilo>
On 09/15/2010 03:18 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote:
> The basic idea behind cross memory attach is to allow MPI programs doing
> intra-node communication to do a single copy of the message rather than
> a double copy of the message via shared memory.
If the host has a dma engine (many modern ones do) you can reduce this
to zero copies (at least, zero processor copies).
> The following patch attempts to achieve this by allowing a
> destination process, given an address and size from a source process, to
> copy memory directly from the source process into its own address space
> via a system call. There is also a symmetrical ability to copy from
> the current process's address space into a destination process's
> address space.
>
>
Instead of those two syscalls, how about a vmfd(pid_t pid, ulong start,
ulong len) system call which returns an file descriptor that represents
a portion of the process address space. You can then use preadv() and
pwritev() to copy memory, and io_submit(IO_CMD_PREADV) and
io_submit(IO_CMD_PWRITEV) for asynchronous variants (especially useful
with a dma engine, since that adds latency).
With some care (and use of mmu_notifiers) you can even mmap() your vmfd
and access remote process memory directly.
A nice property of file descriptors is that you can pass them around
securely via SCM_RIGHTS. So a process can create a window into its
address space and pass it to other processes.
(or you could just use a shared memory object and pass it around)
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-15 10:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-15 1:18 [RFC][PATCH] Cross Memory Attach Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 13:23 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 13:23 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 13:20 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 13:20 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 10:58 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-09-15 10:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 16:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 14:42 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 14:42 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 14:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-15 14:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-15 15:44 ` Robin Holt
2010-09-15 15:44 ` Robin Holt
2010-09-16 6:32 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 6:32 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 9:15 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 9:15 ` Brice Goglin
2010-09-16 14:00 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 14:00 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-15 14:46 ` Bryan Donlan
2010-09-15 14:46 ` Bryan Donlan
2010-09-15 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-15 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-16 1:18 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 1:18 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-16 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-02 3:37 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-11-02 3:37 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-11-02 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-02 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-16 1:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 1:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-16 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-16 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 15:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-15 15:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 2:25 ` Christopher Yeoh
2010-09-16 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-16 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 17:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-16 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 17:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-16 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-16 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-19 4:44 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-19 19:20 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-19 21:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-09-19 22:47 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-19 4:55 ` Yuhong Bao
2010-09-15 16:07 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-09-16 2:17 ` Christopher Yeoh
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