From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/18] fs: Introduce per-bucket inode hash locks
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:00:57 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101019070057.GA7770@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101018162105.GB9571@infradead.org>
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:21:05PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 06:16:50PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > Hiding the type of lock, and hiding the fact that it sets the low bit?
> > > I don't agree. We don't have synchronization in our data structures,
> > > where possible, because it is just restrictive or goes wrong when people
> > > don't think enough about the locking.
> >
> > I fully agree. The old skb lists in networking made this mistake
> > long ago and it was a big problem, until people essentially stopped
> > using it (always using __ variants) and it was eventually removed.
> >
> > Magic locking in data structures is usually a bad idea.
>
> Err, there is no implicit locking in the calls to hlist_*. There
> is just two small wrappers for the bit-lock/unlock so that the callers
> don't have to know how the lock is overloaded onto the pointer in the
> list head.
But it is still "magic". Because you don't even know whether it
is a spin or sleeping lock, let alone whether it is irq or bh safe.
You get far more information seeing a bit_spin_lock(0, &hlist) call
than hlist_lock().
Even if you do rename them to hlist_bit_spin_lock, etc. Then you need
to add variants for each type of locking a caller wants to do on it.
Ask Linus what he thinks about that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-19 7:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-08 5:21 fs: Inode cache scalability V2 Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 01/18] kernel: add bl_list Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:18 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-08 10:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 02/18] fs: Convert nr_inodes and nr_unused to per-cpu counters Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 03/18] fs: keep inode with backing-dev Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 7:27 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 04/18] fs: Implement lazy LRU updates for inodes Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 7:31 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 9:08 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 9:51 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 05/18] fs: inode split IO and LRU lists Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 7:38 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 9:16 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 9:58 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 06/18] fs: Clean up inode reference counting Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 7:46 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 07/18] exofs: use iput() for inode reference count decrements Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 7:56 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 15:41 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 08/18] fs: add inode reference coutn read accessor Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 09/18] fs: rework icount to be a locked variable Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 7:50 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 13:16 ` Chris Mason
2010-10-08 9:32 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:15 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 13:14 ` Chris Mason
2010-10-08 13:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 14:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 10/18] fs: Factor inode hash operations into functions Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 9:41 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 11/18] fs: Introduce per-bucket inode hash locks Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 7:51 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 9:49 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 9:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 13:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 14:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 18:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 17:12 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-17 0:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 2:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-17 0:46 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17 2:25 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-18 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-18 16:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-19 7:00 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-10-19 16:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-20 3:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-24 15:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-24 21:17 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-25 4:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-25 7:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-26 0:12 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-26 0:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-26 0:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 12/18] fs: add a per-superblock lock for the inode list Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 13/18] fs: split locking of inode writeback and LRU lists Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 8:00 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 17:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-17 1:00 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17 2:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 14/18] fs: Protect inode->i_state with th einode->i_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 8:04 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09 8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09 14:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-10 2:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 15/18] fs: introduce a per-cpu last_ino allocator Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 8:05 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-08 8:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 9:58 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:09 ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-08 10:19 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 10:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 9:56 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 10:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 10:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 13:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 14:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 14:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 19:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09 17:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-16 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 17:21 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 16/18] fs: Make iunique independent of inode_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 7:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 8:06 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 17/18] fs: icache remove inode_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 8:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-13 7:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 7:27 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 11:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13 12:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 12:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13 12:25 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 10:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-13 12:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 11:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13 12:30 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 23:23 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-14 9:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-14 9:13 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-14 14:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-15 0:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 3:13 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-15 3:30 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 3:44 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 6:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 10:59 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-15 13:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 13:29 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 17:33 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 17:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-15 18:02 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 18:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 2:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 14:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 20:50 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 20:56 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 4:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 11:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-15 13:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 15:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08 5:21 ` [PATCH 18/18] fs: Reduce inode I_FREEING and factor inode disposal Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 10:18 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:52 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 12:10 ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 13:55 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-09 17:22 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-09 8:08 ` [PATCH 19/18] fs: split __inode_add_to_list Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-12 10:47 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-12 10:47 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-12 11:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-12 12:05 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-09 11:18 ` [PATCH 20/18] fs: do not assign default i_ino in new_inode Christoph Hellwig
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