From: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched: automated per session task groups
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:01:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101201050129.GA5210@cr0.nay.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101130193622.GF26758@redhat.com>
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 02:36:22PM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>
>So again, user will think that task is in cgroup test1 and is being
>controlled by the respective weight but that's not the case.
>
>Even if we prevent autogroup task from being visible in cpu controller
>root group, then comes the question what happens if cpu and some other
>controller is comounted. Say cpuset. Now in that case will task be
>visible in root group task file and can one operate on that. Now showing
>up there does not make much sense as task should still be controllable
>by other controllers and its policies.
>
>So yes, creating a /proc/<pid>/autogroup is dirt cheap and makes the life
>easier in terms of implementation of this patch and it should work well.
>But it is also a new user interface which does not sound too extensible and
>does not seem to cooperate well with cgroup interface.
>
>It also introduces this new notion of niceness for task groups which is sort
>of equivalent to cpu.shares in cpu controller. First of all why should we
>not stick to shares notion even for autogroup. Even if we introduce the notion
>of niceness for groups, IMHO, it should be through cgroup interface instead of
>group niceness for autogroup and shares/weights for cgroup despite the
>fact that in the background they do similar things.
>
Hmm, maybe we can make AUTO_GROUP depend on !CGROUPS?
It seems that autogroup only uses 'struct task_group', no other cgroup things,
so I think that is reasonable and doable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-01 4:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-21 13:37 [PATCH v4] sched: automated per session task groups Ingo Molnar
2010-11-21 13:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-21 15:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-21 16:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-21 16:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-21 18:43 ` Gene Heskett
2010-11-25 16:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-28 14:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-28 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-28 20:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-29 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-29 12:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-29 13:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-29 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-29 14:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-29 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-29 16:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-29 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-29 18:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-29 19:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-29 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-30 3:39 ` Paul Turner
2010-11-30 4:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 4:23 ` Paul Turner
2010-11-30 13:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-30 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-30 14:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-30 16:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 15:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-11-30 17:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 19:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-12-01 5:01 ` Américo Wang [this message]
2010-12-01 6:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-01 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 22:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-01 5:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-01 11:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 11:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-01 14:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-12-01 15:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 7:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-30 14:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-30 14:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-30 15:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-30 15:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-30 16:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-29 5:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-01 3:39 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-01 3:39 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-01 6:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 5:11 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-03 6:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-03 8:37 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-04 23:55 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2010-12-05 5:11 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-07 11:32 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-15 12:10 ` Paul Turner
2010-12-01 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-15 1:13 [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty " Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 11:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 11:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-15 12:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-15 21:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 13:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-16 14:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-16 15:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-16 17:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-20 19:35 ` [PATCH v4] sched: automated per session " Mike Galbraith
2010-12-04 17:39 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-04 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-04 20:01 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-04 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-04 23:43 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-05 7:47 ` Ray Lee
2010-12-05 19:22 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-05 22:47 ` Colin Walters
2010-12-05 22:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-12-05 23:05 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-12-07 18:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-05 10:18 ` Con Kolivas
2010-12-05 11:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-12-05 20:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-12-04 23:31 ` david
2010-12-05 11:11 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-12-06 0:28 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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