From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Cc: Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, npiggin@kernel.dk, dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Bugs in mkfs.xfs, device mapper, xfs, and /dev/ram
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:22:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101202212227.GA22703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101202141737.GA29799@infradead.org>
On Thu, Dec 02 2010 at 9:17am -0500,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 03:14:28PM +0100, Spelic wrote:
> > On 12/02/2010 03:11 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > >I'm pretty sure you have CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT enabled. This
> > >option must never be enabled, as it causes block devices to be
> > >randomly renumered. Together with the ramdisk driver overloading
> > >the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to discard all data it guarantees you to get
> > >data loss like yours.
> >
> > Nope...
> >
> > # CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT is not set
>
> Hmm, I suspect dm-linear's dumb forwarding of ioctls has the same
> effect.
For the benefit of others:
- mkfs.xfs will avoid sending BLKFLSBUF to any device whose major is
ramdisk's major, this dates back to 2004:
http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2004-08/msg00463.html
- but because a kpartx partition overlay (linear DM mapping) is used for
the /dev/ram0p1 device, mkfs.xfs only sees a device with DM's major
- so mkfs.xfs sends BLKFLSBUF to the DM device blissfully unaware that
the backing device (behind the DM linear target) is a brd device
- DM will forward the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to brd, which triggers
drivers/block/brd.c:brd_ioctl (nuking the entire ramdisk in the
process)
So coming full circle this is what hch was referring to when he
mentioned:
1) "ramdisk driver overloading the BLKFLSBUF ioctl ..."
2) "dm-linear's dumb forwarding of ioctls ..."
I really can't see DM adding a specific check for ramdisk's major when
forwarding the BLKFLSBUF ioctl.
brd has direct partition support (see commit d7853d1f8932c) so maybe
kpartx should just blacklist /dev/ram devices?
Alternatively, what about switching brd away from overloading BLKFLSBUF
to a real implementation of (overloaded) BLKDISCARD support in brd.c?
One that doesn't blindly nuke the entire device but that properly
processes the discard request.
Mike
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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Cc: npiggin@kernel.dk,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
dm-devel@redhat.com, Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Bugs in mkfs.xfs, device mapper, xfs, and /dev/ram
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:22:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101202212227.GA22703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101202141737.GA29799@infradead.org>
On Thu, Dec 02 2010 at 9:17am -0500,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 03:14:28PM +0100, Spelic wrote:
> > On 12/02/2010 03:11 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > >I'm pretty sure you have CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT enabled. This
> > >option must never be enabled, as it causes block devices to be
> > >randomly renumered. Together with the ramdisk driver overloading
> > >the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to discard all data it guarantees you to get
> > >data loss like yours.
> >
> > Nope...
> >
> > # CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT is not set
>
> Hmm, I suspect dm-linear's dumb forwarding of ioctls has the same
> effect.
For the benefit of others:
- mkfs.xfs will avoid sending BLKFLSBUF to any device whose major is
ramdisk's major, this dates back to 2004:
http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2004-08/msg00463.html
- but because a kpartx partition overlay (linear DM mapping) is used for
the /dev/ram0p1 device, mkfs.xfs only sees a device with DM's major
- so mkfs.xfs sends BLKFLSBUF to the DM device blissfully unaware that
the backing device (behind the DM linear target) is a brd device
- DM will forward the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to brd, which triggers
drivers/block/brd.c:brd_ioctl (nuking the entire ramdisk in the
process)
So coming full circle this is what hch was referring to when he
mentioned:
1) "ramdisk driver overloading the BLKFLSBUF ioctl ..."
2) "dm-linear's dumb forwarding of ioctls ..."
I really can't see DM adding a specific check for ramdisk's major when
forwarding the BLKFLSBUF ioctl.
brd has direct partition support (see commit d7853d1f8932c) so maybe
kpartx should just blacklist /dev/ram devices?
Alternatively, what about switching brd away from overloading BLKFLSBUF
to a real implementation of (overloaded) BLKDISCARD support in brd.c?
One that doesn't blindly nuke the entire device but that properly
processes the discard request.
Mike
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Cc: npiggin@kernel.dk,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
dm-devel@redhat.com, Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org>
Subject: Re: Bugs in mkfs.xfs, device mapper, xfs, and /dev/ram
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 16:22:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101202212227.GA22703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101202141737.GA29799@infradead.org>
On Thu, Dec 02 2010 at 9:17am -0500,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 03:14:28PM +0100, Spelic wrote:
> > On 12/02/2010 03:11 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > >I'm pretty sure you have CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT enabled. This
> > >option must never be enabled, as it causes block devices to be
> > >randomly renumered. Together with the ramdisk driver overloading
> > >the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to discard all data it guarantees you to get
> > >data loss like yours.
> >
> > Nope...
> >
> > # CONFIG_DEBUG_BLOCK_EXT_DEVT is not set
>
> Hmm, I suspect dm-linear's dumb forwarding of ioctls has the same
> effect.
For the benefit of others:
- mkfs.xfs will avoid sending BLKFLSBUF to any device whose major is
ramdisk's major, this dates back to 2004:
http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2004-08/msg00463.html
- but because a kpartx partition overlay (linear DM mapping) is used for
the /dev/ram0p1 device, mkfs.xfs only sees a device with DM's major
- so mkfs.xfs sends BLKFLSBUF to the DM device blissfully unaware that
the backing device (behind the DM linear target) is a brd device
- DM will forward the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to brd, which triggers
drivers/block/brd.c:brd_ioctl (nuking the entire ramdisk in the
process)
So coming full circle this is what hch was referring to when he
mentioned:
1) "ramdisk driver overloading the BLKFLSBUF ioctl ..."
2) "dm-linear's dumb forwarding of ioctls ..."
I really can't see DM adding a specific check for ramdisk's major when
forwarding the BLKFLSBUF ioctl.
brd has direct partition support (see commit d7853d1f8932c) so maybe
kpartx should just blacklist /dev/ram devices?
Alternatively, what about switching brd away from overloading BLKFLSBUF
to a real implementation of (overloaded) BLKDISCARD support in brd.c?
One that doesn't blindly nuke the entire device but that properly
processes the discard request.
Mike
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-02 13:55 [linux-lvm] Bugs in mkfs.xfs, device mapper, xfs, and /dev/ram Spelic
2010-12-02 13:55 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 13:55 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 14:11 ` [linux-lvm] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-12-02 14:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-12-02 14:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-12-02 14:14 ` [linux-lvm] " Spelic
2010-12-02 14:14 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 14:14 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 14:17 ` [linux-lvm] " Christoph Hellwig
2010-12-02 14:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-12-02 14:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-12-02 21:22 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2010-12-02 21:22 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-02 21:22 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2010-12-02 22:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-02 22:08 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-12-02 22:08 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2010-12-03 17:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-03 17:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-03 17:11 ` [linux-lvm] " Nick Piggin
2010-12-03 18:15 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-03 18:15 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-03 18:15 ` [linux-lvm] " Ted Ts'o
2010-12-02 14:14 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 14:14 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 14:14 ` Spelic
2010-12-02 23:07 ` [linux-lvm] " Dave Chinner
2010-12-02 23:07 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-02 23:07 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-03 14:07 ` [linux-lvm] " Spelic
2010-12-03 14:07 ` Spelic
2010-12-03 14:07 ` Spelic
2010-12-06 4:09 ` [linux-lvm] " Dave Chinner
2010-12-06 4:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-06 4:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-06 12:20 ` [linux-lvm] NFS corruption on ENOSPC (was: Re: Bugs in mkfs.xfs, device mapper, xfs, and /dev/ram) Spelic
2010-12-06 12:20 ` Spelic
2010-12-06 12:20 ` Spelic
2010-12-06 13:33 ` [linux-lvm] " Trond Myklebust
2010-12-06 13:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-06 13:33 ` Trond Myklebust
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