From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Jason Lunz <lunz@acm.org>
Cc: atom ota <atomota@sleepyhammer.com>,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: allow mtd and jffs2 when ARCH=um
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:40:25 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201012141840.27529.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101214212349.GA6937@falooley.org>
On Tuesday 14 December 2010 15:23:49 Jason Lunz wrote:
> On one hand you've got uml, which simply doesn't have mmio. On the other
> there's mtd, which began as a method for accessing hardware devices that
> are often accessed using mmio. But then the mtd subsystem developed
> emulations of that hardware that are software based and thus don't
> require mmio. It's mainly these emulated backends I'm interested in
> exposing.
>
> Nothing is going to change so that it makes sense to have any real
> mmio-using hardware driver run on uml. The question you raise is, are
> there other classes of driver with a software-only subset that can be
> exposed on uml? And if so, would adding stub implementations of
> readb/writeb and friends actually be enough to make those work? I'm not
> aware of any, so at present I don't think the argument for implementing
> this in uml arch code is very strong. Or in other words, I don't think a
> "general solution" would be very general.
For what it's worth, QEMU had replaced all my use cases for UML in the past
few years. If I wanted to play with loopback mounting jffs2 I'd build a kernel
to run under QEMU, and have that emulate the flash.
Rob
--
GPLv3: as worthy a successor as The Phantom Menace, as timely as Duke Nukem
Forever, and as welcome as New Coke.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Jason Lunz <lunz@acm.org>
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
atom ota <atomota@sleepyhammer.com>,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: allow mtd and jffs2 when ARCH=um
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:40:25 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201012141840.27529.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101214212349.GA6937@falooley.org>
On Tuesday 14 December 2010 15:23:49 Jason Lunz wrote:
> On one hand you've got uml, which simply doesn't have mmio. On the other
> there's mtd, which began as a method for accessing hardware devices that
> are often accessed using mmio. But then the mtd subsystem developed
> emulations of that hardware that are software based and thus don't
> require mmio. It's mainly these emulated backends I'm interested in
> exposing.
>
> Nothing is going to change so that it makes sense to have any real
> mmio-using hardware driver run on uml. The question you raise is, are
> there other classes of driver with a software-only subset that can be
> exposed on uml? And if so, would adding stub implementations of
> readb/writeb and friends actually be enough to make those work? I'm not
> aware of any, so at present I don't think the argument for implementing
> this in uml arch code is very strong. Or in other words, I don't think a
> "general solution" would be very general.
For what it's worth, QEMU had replaced all my use cases for UML in the past
few years. If I wanted to play with loopback mounting jffs2 I'd build a kernel
to run under QEMU, and have that emulate the flash.
Rob
--
GPLv3: as worthy a successor as The Phantom Menace, as timely as Duke Nukem
Forever, and as welcome as New Coke.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-15 0:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-10-24 1:17 ` [PATCH] allow use of mtd and jffs2 on uml Jason Lunz
2007-10-24 6:51 ` David Woodhouse
2007-10-24 15:54 ` Jason Lunz
2007-10-24 15:54 ` Jason Lunz
2007-10-24 16:24 ` atom ota
2007-10-24 16:24 ` atom ota
2007-12-27 18:15 ` Jason Lunz
2007-12-27 18:15 ` Jason Lunz
2007-12-27 18:15 ` [uml-devel] " Jason Lunz
2007-12-28 17:48 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-12-28 17:48 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-12-28 17:48 ` [uml-devel] " Sam Ravnborg
2010-12-07 7:29 ` [PATCH] mtd: allow mtd and jffs2 when ARCH=um Jason Lunz
2010-12-07 7:29 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-07 9:39 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2010-12-07 9:39 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2010-12-07 9:39 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2010-12-07 18:20 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-07 18:20 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-07 18:20 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-14 16:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-14 16:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-14 19:51 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-14 19:51 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-14 20:01 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-14 20:01 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-14 21:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-12-14 21:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-12-14 21:23 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-14 21:23 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-15 0:40 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2010-12-15 0:40 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-15 0:49 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-15 0:49 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-15 1:19 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-15 1:19 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-15 6:31 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-15 6:31 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-16 15:18 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-16 15:18 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-18 4:08 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-18 4:08 ` Rob Landley
2010-12-19 17:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-19 17:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-15 8:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-12-15 8:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-12-16 15:25 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-16 15:25 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-16 22:01 ` Anatolij Gustschin
2010-12-16 22:01 ` Anatolij Gustschin
2010-12-17 4:27 ` mtd: fix CONFIG_MTD_COMPLEX_MAPPINGS=n compile Jason Lunz
2010-12-19 16:47 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-19 16:47 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-19 19:07 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-19 19:07 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-20 11:23 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-20 11:23 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-20 14:04 ` [PATCH] mtd: allow mtd and jffs2 when ARCH=um Jason Lunz
2010-12-20 14:04 ` Jason Lunz
2010-12-22 14:40 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-12-22 14:40 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-01-06 15:45 ` David Woodhouse
2011-01-06 15:45 ` David Woodhouse
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