From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: P??draig Brady <P@draigBrady.com>
Cc: Am??rico Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
wharms@bfs.de, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:49:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101215094953.GG19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CECFB19.1090003@draigBrady.com>
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:46:33AM +0000, P??draig Brady wrote:
> Looks like gcc is following the standard exactly.
>
> C90 - 6.5.7
> C99 - 6.7.8
>
> If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than
> there are elements or members of an aggregate ... the remainder
> of the aggregate shall be initialized implicitly the same as
> objects that have static storage duration.
Incorrect. See 6.2.6.1 in C99; basically, padding bytes have unspecified
contents. Implementation is allowed to leave them in any state (including
not bothering to copy them when doing struct assignments, etc.). See
Appendix J (portability issues) as well.
The text you are quoting is about handling of missing initializers - it
essentially refers you back to the rules in 6.7.8p{9,10} (for arithmetical
types use zero, for pointers - null pointer, for arrays - apply recursively
to each array member, for structs - apply recursively for each named
member, for unions - apply recursively for the first named member). That's
it - nothing in the standard says how to initialize padding. Note that
these rules are _not_ guaranteed to be "fill everything with zero bits";
it often will be true, but it's implementation-dependent. Implementation
may decide to fill padding with all-zeroes; it's not required to do so.
The bottom line: if you rely on that, you are relying on non-portable
details of compiler behaviour. Moreover, the authors are not even
required to document what they are doing or to keep that behaviour
consistent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-15 9:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-10 20:38 [PATCH] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-10 20:38 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-12 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-12 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-13 21:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-13 21:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-14 9:25 ` [PATCH v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-14 9:25 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-15 2:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 2:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 19:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-15 19:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-15 19:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-16 11:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-16 11:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-22 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-22 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 0:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 0:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 5:12 ` Dan Carpenter
2010-11-23 5:12 ` Dan Carpenter
2010-11-23 6:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 6:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 6:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 13:58 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 14:01 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 14:01 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 14:45 ` walter harms
2010-11-23 14:45 ` walter harms
2010-11-23 14:45 ` walter harms
2010-11-23 15:23 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 15:23 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 15:23 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 18:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-23 18:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-23 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 20:22 ` David Miller
2010-11-23 20:22 ` David Miller
2010-11-24 0:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-24 0:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-24 16:06 ` walter harms
2010-11-24 16:06 ` walter harms
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 11:05 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 11:05 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 11:46 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 12:32 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 12:32 ` Américo Wang
2010-12-15 9:49 ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-12-15 20:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 20:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 20:33 ` Julia Lawall
2010-12-15 20:33 ` Julia Lawall
2010-12-15 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 22:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 22:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-16 9:39 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-16 9:39 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-16 9:39 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-24 17:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-24 17:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-16 18:45 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-16 18:45 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH] " Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 2:05 ` Andrew Morton
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