From: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:58:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101123140111.GA3816@hack> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289848341.2607.125.camel@edumazet-laptop>
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 08:12:21PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>Le dimanche 14 novembre 2010 à 18:06 -0800, Andrew Morton a écrit :
>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:25:33 +0300 Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > if (timeval) {
>> > - rtv.tv_sec = rts.tv_sec;
>> > - rtv.tv_usec = rts.tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC;
>> > + struct timeval rtv = {
>> > + .tv_sec = rts.tv_sec,
>> > + .tv_usec = rts.tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC
>> > + };
>> >
>> > if (!copy_to_user(p, &rtv, sizeof(rtv)))
>> > return ret;
>>
>> Please check the assembly code - this will still leave four bytes of
>> uninitalised stack data in 'rtv', surely.
>
>Thats a good question.
>
>In my understanding, gcc should initialize all holes (and other not
>mentioned fields) with 0, even for automatic storage [C99 only mandates
>this on static storage]
>
>I tested on x86_64 and this is the case, but could not find a definitive
>answer in gcc documentation.
>
Yeah, this is not clearly defined by C99 I think, but we can still
find some clues in 6.2.6.1, Paragraph 6,
"
When a value is stored in an object of structure or union type,
including in a member object, the bytes of the object representation
that correspond to any padding bytes take unspecified values.
"
So we can't rely on the compiler to initialize the padding bytes
too.
--
Live like a child, think like the god.
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From: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:01:11 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101123140111.GA3816@hack> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289848341.2607.125.camel@edumazet-laptop>
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 08:12:21PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>Le dimanche 14 novembre 2010 à 18:06 -0800, Andrew Morton a écrit :
>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:25:33 +0300 Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > if (timeval) {
>> > - rtv.tv_sec = rts.tv_sec;
>> > - rtv.tv_usec = rts.tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC;
>> > + struct timeval rtv = {
>> > + .tv_sec = rts.tv_sec,
>> > + .tv_usec = rts.tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC
>> > + };
>> >
>> > if (!copy_to_user(p, &rtv, sizeof(rtv)))
>> > return ret;
>>
>> Please check the assembly code - this will still leave four bytes of
>> uninitalised stack data in 'rtv', surely.
>
>Thats a good question.
>
>In my understanding, gcc should initialize all holes (and other not
>mentioned fields) with 0, even for automatic storage [C99 only mandates
>this on static storage]
>
>I tested on x86_64 and this is the case, but could not find a definitive
>answer in gcc documentation.
>
Yeah, this is not clearly defined by C99 I think, but we can still
find some clues in 6.2.6.1, Paragraph 6,
"
When a value is stored in an object of structure or union type,
including in a member object, the bytes of the object representation
that correspond to any padding bytes take unspecified values.
"
So we can't rely on the compiler to initialize the padding bytes
too.
--
Live like a child, think like the god.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Américo Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:01:11 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101123140111.GA3816@hack> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289848341.2607.125.camel@edumazet-laptop>
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 08:12:21PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>Le dimanche 14 novembre 2010 à 18:06 -0800, Andrew Morton a écrit :
>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:25:33 +0300 Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > if (timeval) {
>> > - rtv.tv_sec = rts.tv_sec;
>> > - rtv.tv_usec = rts.tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC;
>> > + struct timeval rtv = {
>> > + .tv_sec = rts.tv_sec,
>> > + .tv_usec = rts.tv_nsec / NSEC_PER_USEC
>> > + };
>> >
>> > if (!copy_to_user(p, &rtv, sizeof(rtv)))
>> > return ret;
>>
>> Please check the assembly code - this will still leave four bytes of
>> uninitalised stack data in 'rtv', surely.
>
>Thats a good question.
>
>In my understanding, gcc should initialize all holes (and other not
>mentioned fields) with 0, even for automatic storage [C99 only mandates
>this on static storage]
>
>I tested on x86_64 and this is the case, but could not find a definitive
>answer in gcc documentation.
>
Yeah, this is not clearly defined by C99 I think, but we can still
find some clues in 6.2.6.1, Paragraph 6,
"
When a value is stored in an object of structure or union type,
including in a member object, the bytes of the object representation
that correspond to any padding bytes take unspecified values.
"
So we can't rely on the compiler to initialize the padding bytes
too.
--
Live like a child, think like the god.
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-10 20:38 [PATCH] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-10 20:38 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-12 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-12 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-13 21:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-13 21:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-14 9:25 ` [PATCH v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-14 9:25 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-15 2:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 2:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 19:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-15 19:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-15 19:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-16 11:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-16 11:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-22 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-22 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 0:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 0:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 5:12 ` Dan Carpenter
2010-11-23 5:12 ` Dan Carpenter
2010-11-23 6:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 6:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 6:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 13:58 ` Américo Wang [this message]
2010-11-23 14:01 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 14:01 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 14:45 ` walter harms
2010-11-23 14:45 ` walter harms
2010-11-23 14:45 ` walter harms
2010-11-23 15:23 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 15:23 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 15:23 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 18:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-23 18:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-23 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 20:22 ` David Miller
2010-11-23 20:22 ` David Miller
2010-11-24 0:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-24 0:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-24 16:06 ` walter harms
2010-11-24 16:06 ` walter harms
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 11:05 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 11:05 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 11:46 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 12:32 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 12:32 ` Américo Wang
2010-12-15 9:49 ` Al Viro
2010-12-15 20:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 20:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 20:33 ` Julia Lawall
2010-12-15 20:33 ` Julia Lawall
2010-12-15 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 20:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 22:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 22:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-16 9:39 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-16 9:39 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-16 9:39 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-24 17:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-24 17:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-16 18:45 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-16 18:45 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH] " Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 2:05 ` Andrew Morton
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