From: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
To: Sage Weil <sage-BnTBU8nroG7k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Indan Zupancic <indan-1J6HnF7K7zE@public.gmane.org>,
Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Jonathan Nieder
<jrnieder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
"Aneesh Kumar K. V"
<aneesh.kumar-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:11:55 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110315101155.GO15097@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103132114380.5145-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 09:29:17PM -0700, Sage Weil wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> > Everyone seems to want to add this new syncfs, but it's not even defined
> > what it does. "Same as sync, but only on one fs" is IMHO not good
> > enough, because sync's behaviour is pretty badly documented, and that's
> > a system call.
>
> How about the man page below? I tried to avoid the somewhat antiquated
> implementation specific terminology in the sync(2) man page.
>
> I think adding this functionality into sync_file_range(2) is forcing
> unrelated functionality into an existing interface; sync_file_range
> operates on _files_, not an entire file system. With each API addition it
> is more important to make the interface simple and intuitive than to
> minimize the size of our patches. IMO that's why a new syscall is
> preferable to, say, an equivalent ioctl.
>
> Thanks-
> sage
>
>
> .TH SYNCFS 2 2011-03-13 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
> .SH NAME
> syncfs \- commit cached file system state to stable storage
> .SH SYNOPSIS
> .B #include <unistd.h>
> .sp
> .B void syncfs(int fd);
> .SH DESCRIPTION
> .BR syncfs ()
> flushes any cached data modifications to the file system containing the
> file referenced by the file descriptor
> .I fd
> to stable storage (usually a disk). This includes the results of any
> file modifications or other file system operations that have completed
> prior to the call to
> .BR syncfs(2).
> This is similar to
> .BR sync(2),
> but will commit changes for only a single file system instead of all
> mounted file systems.
> .SH ERRORS
> This function is always successful.
Perhaps we should consider propagating errors out to the user
application rather than discarding them in kernel and pretending we
can't ever have a write error?
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org
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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>
Cc: Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Aneesh Kumar K. V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
mtk.manpages@gmail.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, hch@lst.de,
l@jasper.es
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:11:55 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110315101155.GO15097@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103132114380.5145@cobra.newdream.net>
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 09:29:17PM -0700, Sage Weil wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> > Everyone seems to want to add this new syncfs, but it's not even defined
> > what it does. "Same as sync, but only on one fs" is IMHO not good
> > enough, because sync's behaviour is pretty badly documented, and that's
> > a system call.
>
> How about the man page below? I tried to avoid the somewhat antiquated
> implementation specific terminology in the sync(2) man page.
>
> I think adding this functionality into sync_file_range(2) is forcing
> unrelated functionality into an existing interface; sync_file_range
> operates on _files_, not an entire file system. With each API addition it
> is more important to make the interface simple and intuitive than to
> minimize the size of our patches. IMO that's why a new syscall is
> preferable to, say, an equivalent ioctl.
>
> Thanks-
> sage
>
>
> .TH SYNCFS 2 2011-03-13 "Linux" "Linux Programmer's Manual"
> .SH NAME
> syncfs \- commit cached file system state to stable storage
> .SH SYNOPSIS
> .B #include <unistd.h>
> .sp
> .B void syncfs(int fd);
> .SH DESCRIPTION
> .BR syncfs ()
> flushes any cached data modifications to the file system containing the
> file referenced by the file descriptor
> .I fd
> to stable storage (usually a disk). This includes the results of any
> file modifications or other file system operations that have completed
> prior to the call to
> .BR syncfs(2).
> This is similar to
> .BR sync(2),
> but will commit changes for only a single file system instead of all
> mounted file systems.
> .SH ERRORS
> This function is always successful.
Perhaps we should consider propagating errors out to the user
application rather than discarding them in kernel and pretending we
can't ever have a write error?
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-15 10:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-03 6:35 [RFC] introduce sys_syncat to sync a single file system Sage Weil
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1102171035220.13904-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-03 7:22 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-03 7:22 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-03 8:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-03 8:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
[not found] ` <87bp1sziqn.fsf-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-07 23:17 ` [RFC] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system (v2) Sage Weil
2011-03-07 23:17 ` Sage Weil
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103071515070.11152-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-08 5:27 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-08 5:27 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
[not found] ` <8762ruchcr.fsf-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-10 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201103101556.44698.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 19:28 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-10 19:28 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-10 19:31 ` [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-10 22:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103101125150.4190-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 4:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-11 4:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-11 11:01 ` Indan Zupancic
[not found] ` <edfa4cf081249734807e582c14253fca.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-11 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201103111255.44979.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 23:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 23:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 23:56 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12 1:53 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 1:53 ` Indan Zupancic
[not found] ` <9446ab1a2315c0d2476c30f8315a0503.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12 2:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12 2:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12 4:22 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 4:22 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 17:32 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20110312173217.GA24981-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 1:56 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:56 ` Indan Zupancic
[not found] ` <1e597aedd3d7825dcc0630b1cf2399fa.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 4:29 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-14 4:29 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-14 9:27 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 10:22 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103132114380.5145-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15 10:11 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-03-15 10:11 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-15 13:00 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 15:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-15 16:08 ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 20:18 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 20:29 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 21:11 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20110314142032.b9523309.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 23:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 23:17 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-12 0:40 ` Ric Wheeler
[not found] ` <4D7AC0FE.8070806-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12 1:33 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 1:33 ` Indan Zupancic
[not found] ` <1d4d1b7ae64da97f44cad0e2bda4f832.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12 2:52 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-03-12 2:52 ` Ric Wheeler
[not found] ` <4D7ADFDD.9080108-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12 3:50 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 3:50 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 12:41 ` Ric Wheeler
[not found] ` <e118a1458c29e4f44bf71c7095e4bce8.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12 18:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-12 18:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-14 1:31 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:37 ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-14 1:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:45 ` Jeff Garzik
[not found] ` <4D7D7325.2040708-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 1:59 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:59 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 19:28 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-12 19:28 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-12 19:22 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-12 19:22 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 1:38 ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 1:38 ` Indan Zupancic
[not found] ` <3cc2c5c6fa6b3bd384017ae95a4241ab.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 5:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 5:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-13 20:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
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