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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] omap changes for v2.6.39 merge window
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:38:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110330223807.GP2255@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110330215434.GI18334@atomide.com>

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:54:35PM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> [110330 14:07]:
> > 
> > So one person will be not enough, that needs to be a whole team of
> > experienced people in the very near future to deal with the massive
> > tsunami of crap which is targeted at mainline. If we fail to set that
> > up, then we run into a very ugly maintainability issue in no time.
> 
> One thing that will help here and distribute the load is to move
> more things under drivers/ as then we have more maintainers looking
> at the code.

In many cases, the ARM SoC vendors will want their people producing the
code, so although moving things to drivers might be a good thing to do,
it won't really increase the number of people involved.  Plus the move
to the drivers subtree would be a problem for devices with tight ties
to the board or SoC.

There is work on pushing towards common code, but there is a lot of code
and this will take time and a lot of work.

							Thanx, Paul

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Paul E. McKenney)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [GIT PULL] omap changes for v2.6.39 merge window
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:38:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110330223807.GP2255@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110330215434.GI18334@atomide.com>

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:54:35PM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> [110330 14:07]:
> > 
> > So one person will be not enough, that needs to be a whole team of
> > experienced people in the very near future to deal with the massive
> > tsunami of crap which is targeted at mainline. If we fail to set that
> > up, then we run into a very ugly maintainability issue in no time.
> 
> One thing that will help here and distribute the load is to move
> more things under drivers/ as then we have more maintainers looking
> at the code.

In many cases, the ARM SoC vendors will want their people producing the
code, so although moving things to drivers might be a good thing to do,
it won't really increase the number of people involved.  Plus the move
to the drivers subtree would be a problem for devices with tight ties
to the board or SoC.

There is work on pushing towards common code, but there is a lot of code
and this will take time and a lot of work.

							Thanx, Paul

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-30 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 341+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-17 18:30 [GIT PULL] omap changes for v2.6.39 merge window Tony Lindgren
2011-03-17 18:30 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-18  2:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-18  2:50   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-18  7:06   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-18  7:06     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-18 10:15   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-18 10:15     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-18 11:13     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-03-18 11:13       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-03-18 11:13       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-03-30 17:06     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-30 17:06       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-30 19:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 19:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 20:41         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-30 20:41           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-30 21:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 21:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 21:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 23:31             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-30 23:31               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-30 23:59               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-30 23:59                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31  0:15                 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31  0:15                   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31  0:31               ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  0:31                 ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  0:31                 ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  0:39               ` david
2011-03-31  0:39                 ` david at lang.hm
2011-03-31  3:17                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  3:17                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  3:29                   ` Dave Airlie
2011-03-31  3:29                     ` Dave Airlie
2011-03-31  4:38                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  4:38                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  9:54                       ` Alan Cox
2011-03-31  9:54                         ` Alan Cox
2011-03-31 10:50                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 10:50                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 12:23                           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-03-31 12:23                             ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-03-31 12:23                             ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-03-31 12:38                           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-03-31 12:38                             ` Catalin Marinas
2011-03-31 13:01                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 13:01                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 14:55                               ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31 14:55                                 ` Bill Gatliff
2011-04-01 12:41                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 12:41                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 18:12                               ` Sam Ravnborg
2011-03-31 18:12                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2011-03-31 18:17                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 18:17                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 18:34                                   ` Jesse Barnes
2011-03-31 18:34                                     ` Jesse Barnes
2011-03-31 13:54                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 13:54                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 17:22                           ` david
2011-03-31 17:22                             ` david at lang.hm
2011-03-31 18:08                             ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-31 18:08                               ` Koen Kooi
2011-03-31  5:05                   ` david
2011-03-31  5:05                     ` david at lang.hm
2011-03-31  7:15                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  7:15                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  8:06                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31  8:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31  8:30                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31  8:30                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 10:41                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31 10:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-03-31 13:25                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 13:25                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 12:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 12:04                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 14:43                             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-31 14:43                               ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-31 15:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 15:01                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 15:05                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 15:05                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 15:45                                   ` david
2011-03-31 15:45                                     ` david at lang.hm
2011-03-31 15:23                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 15:23                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 16:58                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 16:58                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 18:23                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 18:23                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 18:55                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 18:55                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-01 11:32                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 11:32                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 20:35                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-03-31 20:35                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-04-01 11:29                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 11:29                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 11:29                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01  7:32                                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-04-01  7:32                                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-04-01 11:22                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 11:22                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 11:22                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 11:55                                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-04-01 11:55                                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-04-01 12:07                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 12:07                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 12:15                                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-04-01 12:15                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-03-31 16:03                           ` david
2011-03-31 16:03                             ` david at lang.hm
2011-03-31 16:45                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 16:45                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 17:17                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 17:17                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 19:25                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 19:25                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 20:05                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 20:05                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 20:28                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 20:28                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 22:49                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 22:49                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-01  0:53                                       ` Mark Brown
2011-04-01  0:53                                         ` Mark Brown
2011-04-01  4:50                                       ` David Brown
2011-04-01  4:50                                         ` David Brown
2011-04-01  7:45                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-01  7:45                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-01 13:54                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 13:54                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 14:28                                             ` Detlef Vollmann
2011-04-01 14:28                                               ` Detlef Vollmann
2011-04-01 14:59                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 14:59                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 15:30                                                 ` Detlef Vollmann
2011-04-01 15:30                                                   ` Detlef Vollmann
2011-04-01 15:50                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 15:50                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 17:44                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-01 17:44                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-01 19:54                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-01 19:54                                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-01 21:00                                                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-01 21:00                                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-01 21:00                                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-01 22:08                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 22:08                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-02  2:24                                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-02  2:24                                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-03 15:26                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-03 15:26                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-03 16:03                                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-03 16:03                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-04  0:59                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-04  0:59                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-04  0:59                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-04  8:26                                                                 ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-04  8:26                                                                   ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-04 11:03                                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-04 11:03                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-04 11:21                                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-04 11:21                                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-04 13:24                                                                     ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-04 13:24                                                                       ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-04 13:31                                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-04 13:31                                                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-04 13:57                                                                         ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-04 13:57                                                                           ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-04 20:08                                                                           ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-04 20:08                                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-05  6:40                                                                             ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-05  6:40                                                                               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-05  7:45                                                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-05  7:45                                                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-05 14:15                                                                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-05 14:15                                                                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-05 22:16                                                                               ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-05 22:16                                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-06  6:43                                                                                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-06  6:43                                                                                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-05 22:22                                                                               ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-05 22:22                                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-06  6:41                                                                                 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-06  6:41                                                                                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2011-04-05  7:30                                                                             ` Marc Zyngier
2011-04-05  7:30                                                                               ` Marc Zyngier
2011-05-26 13:38                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26 13:38                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-02  2:59                                                       ` Mark Brown
2011-04-02  2:59                                                         ` Mark Brown
2011-04-04  5:16                                                   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-04  5:16                                                     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-04  9:27                                                   ` Nicolas Ferre
2011-04-04  9:27                                                     ` Nicolas Ferre
2011-04-01 21:10                                                 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-04-01 21:10                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-04-01 21:32                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 21:32                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 21:51                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-01 21:51                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-03 22:18                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-03 22:18                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-04  0:14                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-04  0:14                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-04  2:49                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-04  2:49                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-01 15:27                                             ` Will Deacon
2011-04-01 15:27                                               ` Will Deacon
2011-04-01 15:55                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 15:55                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 16:39                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-01 16:39                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-03 22:26                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-03 22:26                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-03 22:26                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-05 23:19                                                   ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-05 23:19                                                     ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-06  8:41                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-06  8:41                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-07  1:44                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-07  1:44                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 20:19                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-01 20:19                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-04-02  4:38                                                   ` Richard Cochran
2011-04-02  4:38                                                     ` Richard Cochran
2011-04-02  3:27                                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-02  3:27                                                   ` Mark Brown
2011-04-06  6:11                                             ` Barry Song
2011-04-06  6:11                                               ` Barry Song
2011-04-06  6:11                                               ` Barry Song
2011-04-06  7:31                                               ` Bryan Wu
2011-04-06  7:31                                                 ` Bryan Wu
2011-03-31 21:40                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 21:40                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 17:56                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 17:56                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 18:34                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 18:34                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 19:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 19:02                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31 19:02                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  8:09                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31  8:09                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31 10:49                       ` Felipe Balbi
2011-03-31 10:49                         ` Felipe Balbi
2011-03-31 18:00                       ` Alexander Holler
2011-03-31 18:00                         ` Alexander Holler
2011-03-31 18:00                         ` Alexander Holler
2011-03-31  5:45               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-03-31  5:45                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-03-31  7:21                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  7:21                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-30 22:08           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:08             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 21:10         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 21:10           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 21:10           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 21:54           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 21:54             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:25             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 22:25               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 22:45               ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:45                 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:56                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 22:56                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-01  1:42                   ` Mark Brown
2011-04-01  1:42                     ` Mark Brown
2011-03-30 22:38             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-03-30 22:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-30 22:47               ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:47                 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 23:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-30 23:13                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-03-30 23:14                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 23:14                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 23:28                   ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 23:28                     ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31 11:00           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31 11:00             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-31 13:54             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-31 13:54               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-30 21:44         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 21:44           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:20           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 22:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-30 22:39             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:39               ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-31  0:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31  0:15           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-31  0:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  0:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  1:15             ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  1:15               ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  1:15               ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  1:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  1:37                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  1:44                 ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  1:44                   ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  1:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  1:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  1:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  2:20                     ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  2:20                       ` Bill Gatliff
2011-03-31  3:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  3:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  3:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-31  6:42                         ` Olof Johansson
2011-03-31  6:42                           ` Olof Johansson
2011-03-31  6:56                         ` David Brown
2011-03-31  6:56                           ` David Brown
2011-03-31 11:27                         ` Felipe Balbi
2011-03-31 11:27                           ` Felipe Balbi
2011-03-31 13:39                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 13:39                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31  4:09             ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31  4:09               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-03-31 10:11               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-31 10:11                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-03-30 21:07       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-30 21:07         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-30 21:07         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-30 22:14         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:14           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-03-30 22:14           ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-01  1:17           ` Mark Brown
2011-04-01  1:17             ` Mark Brown
2011-04-01 14:17         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 14:17           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-01 14:17           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-18  3:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-18  3:02   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-18  7:09   ` Tony Lindgren
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2011-03-18  8:06     ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
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