From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/17] writeback: make writeback_control.nr_to_write straight
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:05:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110516120550.GC5902@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110516001210.GR19446@dastard>
Dave,
> > > > spin_unlock(&inode->i_lock);
> > > > spin_unlock(&wb->list_lock);
> > > > iput(inode);
> > > > cond_resched();
> > > > spin_lock(&wb->list_lock);
> > > > - if (wbc->nr_to_write <= 0)
> > > > - return 1;
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * bail out to wb_writeback() often enough to check
> > > > + * background threshold and other termination conditions.
> > > > + */
> > > > + if (wrote >= MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES)
> > > > + break;
> > >
> > > Why do this so often? If you are writing large files, it will be
> > > once every writeback_single_inode() call that you bail. Seems rather
> > > inefficient to me to go back to the top level loop just to check for
> > > more work when we already know we have more work to do because
> > > there's still inodes on b_io....
> >
> > (answering the below comments together)
> >
> > For large files, it's exactly the same behavior as in the old
> > wb_writeback(), which sets .nr_to_write = MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES.
> >
> > So it's not "more inefficient" than the original code.
>
> I didn't say that. I said it "seems rather inefficient" as a direct
> comment on the restructured code. We don't need to check the high
> level loop until we've finished processing b_io - the existing code
> did that to get nr_to_write updated, but now we've changed it so we
> don't refill b_io until it is empty, so any tim ewe loop back to the
> top, we're just going to start from the same point that we were at
> deep in the loop itself.
>
> That is the current code does:
>
>
> wb_writeback {
> wbc->nr_to_write = MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES
> writeback_inodes_wb {
> queue_io(expired)
> writeback_inodes {
> writeback_single_inode
> } until (wbc->nr_to_write <= 0)
> }
> }
>
> The new code does:
>
> wb_writeback {
> writeback_inodes_wb {
> if (b_io empty)
> queue_io(expired)
> writeback_sb_inodes {
> wbc->nr_to_write = MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES
> wrote = writeback_single_inode
> if (wrote >= MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES)
> break;
> } until (b_io empty)
> }
> }
>
> Which is a very different inner loop structure because now small
> inodes that write less than MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES will not cause the
> inner loop to exit until b_io empties.
Note that the wrote pages/inodes will be accumulated
__writeback_inodes_wb()/writeback_sb_inodes(). So even if it's all
small files, it will bail to wb_writeback() as soon as the total
number of written pages/inodes exceeds 1024.
> However, one large file will
> cause the inner loop to exit, go all the way back up to
> wb_writeback(), which will immeidately come back down into
> writeback_inodes() and start working on an _unchanged b_io list_.
...So there is no much difference between small/large files.
> My point is that breaking out of the inner loop like this is
> pointless. Especially if all we have is inodes with >1024 dirty
> pages because of all the unnecessary extra work breaking out of the
> inner loop entails.
You are right and I'm fully aware of your point at the very beginning.
I didn't optimize it because "well it looks enough changes and there's
the larger write chunk size patch queued to fix this inefficiency"...
> > For balance_dirty_pages(), it may change behavior by splitting one
> > 16MB write to four 4MB writes.
>
> balance_dirty_pages() typically askes for 1536 pages to be written
> back, so I'm not sure where your numbers are coming from.
Sorry 16MB is an imaginary number.. The normal write_chunk is 6MB.
> > However the good side could be less
> > throttle latency.
> >
> > The fix is to do IO-less balance_dirty_pages() and do larger write
> > chunk size (around half write bandwidth). Then we get reasonable good
> > bail frequent as well as IO efficiency.
>
> We're not getting that with this patch set, though, and so the
> change as proposed needs to work correctly without them.
OK, let's fix it now by bailing on every 100ms:
--- linux-next.orig/fs/fs-writeback.c 2011-05-16 19:27:51.000000000 +0800
+++ linux-next/fs/fs-writeback.c 2011-05-16 19:36:40.000000000 +0800
@@ -562,6 +562,7 @@ static long writeback_sb_inodes(struct s
.range_start = 0,
.range_end = LLONG_MAX,
};
+ unsigned long start_time = jiffies;
long write_chunk;
long wrote = 0; /* count both pages and inodes */
@@ -624,10 +625,12 @@ static long writeback_sb_inodes(struct s
* bail out to wb_writeback() often enough to check
* background threshold and other termination conditions.
*/
- if (wrote >= MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES)
- break;
- if (work->nr_pages <= 0)
- break;
+ if (wrote) {
+ if (jiffies - start_time > HZ / 10UL)
+ break;
+ if (work->nr_pages <= 0)
+ break;
+ }
}
return wrote;
}
@@ -635,6 +638,7 @@ static long writeback_sb_inodes(struct s
static long __writeback_inodes_wb(struct bdi_writeback *wb,
struct wb_writeback_work *work)
{
+ unsigned long start_time = jiffies;
long wrote = 0;
while (!list_empty(&wb->b_io)) {
@@ -648,10 +652,12 @@ static long __writeback_inodes_wb(struct
wrote += writeback_sb_inodes(sb, wb, work);
drop_super(sb);
- if (wrote >= MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES)
- break;
- if (work->nr_pages <= 0)
- break;
+ if (wrote) {
+ if (jiffies - start_time > HZ / 10UL)
+ break;
+ if (work->nr_pages <= 0)
+ break;
+ }
}
/* Leave any unwritten inodes on b_io */
return wrote;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-16 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-12 13:57 [PATCH 00/17] writeback fixes and cleanups for 2.6.40 (v2) Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 01/17] writeback: introduce .tagged_sync for the WB_SYNC_NONE sync stage Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 22:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-13 2:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-13 10:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-15 23:43 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-16 5:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-19 21:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 02/17] writeback: update dirtied_when for synced inode to prevent livelock Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 22:42 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-13 3:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-19 21:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-23 13:14 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-24 3:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 03/17] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_cleaned Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 22:44 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-13 3:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-15 23:50 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-16 10:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-16 11:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 04/17] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 05/17] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 06/17] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 22:55 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-16 13:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 07/17] writeback: refill b_io iff empty Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 08/17] writeback: split inode_wb_list_lock into bdi_writeback.list_lock Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 09/17] writeback: elevate queue_io() into wb_writeback() Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 10/17] writeback: avoid extra sync work at enqueue time Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 11/17] writeback: add bdi_dirty_limit() kernel-doc Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 12/17] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2011-05-16 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-16 10:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 13/17] writeback: remove writeback_control.more_io Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 14:25 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-12 23:04 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-13 5:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-15 23:54 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 14/17] writeback: make writeback_control.nr_to_write straight Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 14:56 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-12 23:18 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-13 5:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-16 0:12 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-16 12:05 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 15/17] writeback: remove .nonblocking and .encountered_congestion Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 16/17] writeback: trace event writeback_single_inode Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 23:20 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-13 5:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-16 0:14 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-16 12:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-12 13:57 ` [PATCH 17/17] writeback: trace event writeback_queue_io Wu Fengguang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-06 3:08 [PATCH 00/17] writeback fixes and cleanups for 2.6.40 Wu Fengguang
2011-05-06 3:08 ` [PATCH 14/17] writeback: make writeback_control.nr_to_write straight Wu Fengguang
2011-05-09 16:54 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-10 3:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-10 13:44 ` Jan Kara
2011-05-11 14:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-05-11 14:54 ` Jan Kara
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