From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:37:11 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110902163711.GA3124@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110901080508.GF30615@sun>
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 12:05 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> ...
> > > +/*
> > > + * NOTE: The getattr/setattr for both /proc/$pid/map_files and
> > > + * /proc/$pid/fd seems to have share the code, so need to be
> > > + * unified and code duplication eliminated!
> >
> > Why not do this now?
>
> There are a couple of reasons. Yesterday I was talking to
> Vasiliy Kulikov about this snippet, so he seems about to send
> you patches related to /proc/$pid/fd update, and after those
> patches will be merged we are to drop code duplication.
> Vasiliy, what the status of the update?
It looks like protecting directories with sensible contents is a nasty
thing. The problem here is that if the dentry is present in the cache,
->lookup() is not called at all and the permissions can be checked in
fop/dop/iop specific handler (getattr(), readlink(), etc.). However, it
would be much simplier to hook ->lookup() only. Otherwise, we have to
define procfs handlers for all operations, which don't call
->d_revalidate().
Is it possible to disable caching dentry for specific files? It is not
performace critical thing in fd and map_files and it would much simplify
the task. Creating handlers for all these op handler bloats procfs.
Also I'm not sure what other handlers might reveal dentry presence.
Besides ->getattr() I could find only one thing - ->link() (Cyrill,
AFAICS ->setattr() doesn't reveal files' presence). Someone more
familiar with vfs than me - please, help to identify all infoleak
sources!
Thank you,
--
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>,
kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 20:37:11 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110902163711.GA3124@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110901080508.GF30615@sun>
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 12:05 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> ...
> > > +/*
> > > + * NOTE: The getattr/setattr for both /proc/$pid/map_files and
> > > + * /proc/$pid/fd seems to have share the code, so need to be
> > > + * unified and code duplication eliminated!
> >
> > Why not do this now?
>
> There are a couple of reasons. Yesterday I was talking to
> Vasiliy Kulikov about this snippet, so he seems about to send
> you patches related to /proc/$pid/fd update, and after those
> patches will be merged we are to drop code duplication.
> Vasiliy, what the status of the update?
It looks like protecting directories with sensible contents is a nasty
thing. The problem here is that if the dentry is present in the cache,
->lookup() is not called at all and the permissions can be checked in
fop/dop/iop specific handler (getattr(), readlink(), etc.). However, it
would be much simplier to hook ->lookup() only. Otherwise, we have to
define procfs handlers for all operations, which don't call
->d_revalidate().
Is it possible to disable caching dentry for specific files? It is not
performace critical thing in fd and map_files and it would much simplify
the task. Creating handlers for all these op handler bloats procfs.
Also I'm not sure what other handlers might reveal dentry presence.
Besides ->getattr() I could find only one thing - ->link() (Cyrill,
AFAICS ->setattr() doesn't reveal files' presence). Someone more
familiar with vfs than me - please, help to identify all infoleak
sources!
Thank you,
--
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-02 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-31 7:58 [patch 0/2] Introduce /proc/pid/map_files v6 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 7:58 ` [patch 1/2] fs, proc: Make proc_get_link to use dentry instead of inode Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 7:58 ` [patch 2/2] fs, proc: Introduce the /proc/<pid>/map_files/ directory v6 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 9:06 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-08-31 10:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 11:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 14:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-08-31 14:09 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 14:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 22:10 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 3:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-09-01 3:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2011-09-01 7:58 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-01 11:50 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-01 12:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-01 17:13 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02 19:15 ` Matt Helsley
2011-09-02 0:09 ` Matt Helsley
2011-09-01 8:05 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-02 16:37 ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-09-02 16:37 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 18:53 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 18:53 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 19:20 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 19:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 19:49 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 19:49 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-05 20:36 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-05 20:36 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-06 10:15 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 10:15 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 16:51 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 16:51 ` [kernel-hardening] " Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 17:29 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 17:29 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-06 17:33 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 17:33 ` [kernel-hardening] " Tejun Heo
2011-09-06 18:15 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-06 18:15 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
[not found] ` <20110906173341.GM18425-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-07 11:23 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 11:23 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-07 21:53 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 21:53 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:13 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:42 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:42 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-07 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-07 22:53 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 5:48 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 5:48 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 5:50 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 5:50 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 6:04 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 6:04 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-08 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-08 23:52 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-09 0:24 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09 0:24 ` [kernel-hardening] " Pavel Emelyanov
2011-09-09 5:48 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09 5:48 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09 6:00 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-09 6:00 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2011-09-09 6:22 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-09 6:22 ` [kernel-hardening] " Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-10 13:21 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-10 13:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-01 10:46 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-01 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 23:04 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02 5:54 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-02 5:53 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-08-31 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02 1:54 ` Nicholas Miell
2011-09-02 1:58 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02 2:04 ` Nicholas Miell
2011-09-02 2:29 ` Tejun Heo
2011-09-02 8:07 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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