From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@parallels.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc 1/3] mm: vmscan: never swap under low memory pressure
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:29:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111110152944.GL3153@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111107112941.0dfa07cb.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 11:29:41AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:31:41 +0100
> Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > We want to prevent floods of used-once file cache pushing us to swap
> > out anonymous pages. Never swap under a certain priority level. The
> > availability of used-once cache pages should prevent us from reaching
> > that threshold.
> >
> > This is needed because subsequent patches will revert some of the
> > mechanisms that tried to prefer file over anon, and this should not
> > result in more eager swapping again.
> >
> > It might also be better to keep the aging machinery going and just not
> > swap, rather than staying away from anonymous pages in the first place
> > and having less useful age information at the time of swapout.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > mm/vmscan.c | 2 ++
> > 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index a90c603..39d3da3 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -831,6 +831,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> > * Try to allocate it some swap space here.
> > */
> > if (PageAnon(page) && !PageSwapCache(page)) {
> > + if (priority >= DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
> > + goto keep_locked;
> > if (!(sc->gfp_mask & __GFP_IO))
> > goto keep_locked;
> > if (!add_to_swap(page))
>
> Hm, how about not scanning LRU_ANON rather than checking here ?
> Add some bias to get_scan_count() or some..
> If you think to need rotation of LRU, only kswapd should do that..
Absolutely, it would require more tuning. This patch was really a
'hey, how about we do something like this? anyone tried that before?'
I keep those things in mind if I pursue this further, thanks.
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From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@parallels.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc 1/3] mm: vmscan: never swap under low memory pressure
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:29:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111110152944.GL3153@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111107112941.0dfa07cb.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 11:29:41AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:31:41 +0100
> Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > We want to prevent floods of used-once file cache pushing us to swap
> > out anonymous pages. Never swap under a certain priority level. The
> > availability of used-once cache pages should prevent us from reaching
> > that threshold.
> >
> > This is needed because subsequent patches will revert some of the
> > mechanisms that tried to prefer file over anon, and this should not
> > result in more eager swapping again.
> >
> > It might also be better to keep the aging machinery going and just not
> > swap, rather than staying away from anonymous pages in the first place
> > and having less useful age information at the time of swapout.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > mm/vmscan.c | 2 ++
> > 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index a90c603..39d3da3 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -831,6 +831,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_page_list(struct list_head *page_list,
> > * Try to allocate it some swap space here.
> > */
> > if (PageAnon(page) && !PageSwapCache(page)) {
> > + if (priority >= DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
> > + goto keep_locked;
> > if (!(sc->gfp_mask & __GFP_IO))
> > goto keep_locked;
> > if (!add_to_swap(page))
>
> Hm, how about not scanning LRU_ANON rather than checking here ?
> Add some bias to get_scan_count() or some..
> If you think to need rotation of LRU, only kswapd should do that..
Absolutely, it would require more tuning. This patch was really a
'hey, how about we do something like this? anyone tried that before?'
I keep those things in mind if I pursue this further, thanks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-10 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-08 11:06 [PATCH 1/2] vmscan: promote shared file mapped pages Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 11:06 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 11:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] vmscan: activate executable pages after first usage Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 11:07 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-08 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 0:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-09 0:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-09 0:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 0:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-09 0:26 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-09 0:26 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-09 1:23 ` Shaohua Li
2011-08-09 1:23 ` Shaohua Li
2011-08-08 11:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] vmscan: promote shared file mapped pages Pekka Enberg
2011-08-08 11:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-08-08 12:18 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 12:18 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 12:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-08-08 12:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-08-08 12:51 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-08 12:51 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-08-18 9:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-18 9:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:31 ` [rfc 1/3] mm: vmscan: never swap under low memory pressure Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:31 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 17:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-02 17:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-03 15:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-03 15:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-08 0:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-08 0:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-07 2:29 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-07 2:29 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-10 15:29 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-11-10 15:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:32 ` [rfc 2/3] mm: vmscan: treat inactive cycling as neutral Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 18:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-02 18:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-11-03 12:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-03 12:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-07 2:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-07 2:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-10 16:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-10 16:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-11 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-11 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-02 16:32 ` [rfc 3/3] mm: vmscan: revert file list boost on lru addition Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:32 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-07 2:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-07 2:45 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-10 16:12 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-10 16:12 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:35 ` [PATCH 1/2] vmscan: promote shared file mapped pages Johannes Weiner
2011-11-02 16:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-08 23:36 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-08 23:36 ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-08 23:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-08-08 23:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-31 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-31 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
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