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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Balbir Singh
	<bsingharora-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 8/8] mm: memcg: modify PageCgroupCache non-atomically
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:13:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111124091312.GE6843@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111124091328.d28d9f55.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 09:13:28AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:42:31 +0100
> Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > 
> > This bit is protected by lock_page_cgroup(), there is no need for
> > locked operations when setting and clearing it.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> 
> Hm. non-atomic ops for pc->flags seems dangerous.
> How about try to remove PCG_CACHE ? Maybe we can depends on PageAnon(page).
> We see 'page' on memcg->lru now.
> I'm sorry I forgot why we needed PCG_CACHE flag..

The problem is that we charge/uncharged pages that are not fully
rmapped and so PageAnon() is not reliable.  I forgot if there are more
places, but the commit_charge in migration was a prominent one.

I have a patch set that reworks migration so to only commit pages that
are fully rmapped but it clashed with the THP patches and I didn't see
too much value to fix it up.  But I should probably revive it, because
it makes some things simpler.

As I replied to Hugh, it might even work for PCG_CACHE, but it's
definitely dangerous and not worth the complex dependencies it brings
on other parts of the code, so please consider 7/8 and 8/8 dropped.
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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 8/8] mm: memcg: modify PageCgroupCache non-atomically
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:13:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111124091312.GE6843@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111124091328.d28d9f55.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 09:13:28AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:42:31 +0100
> Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > This bit is protected by lock_page_cgroup(), there is no need for
> > locked operations when setting and clearing it.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> 
> Hm. non-atomic ops for pc->flags seems dangerous.
> How about try to remove PCG_CACHE ? Maybe we can depends on PageAnon(page).
> We see 'page' on memcg->lru now.
> I'm sorry I forgot why we needed PCG_CACHE flag..

The problem is that we charge/uncharged pages that are not fully
rmapped and so PageAnon() is not reliable.  I forgot if there are more
places, but the commit_charge in migration was a prominent one.

I have a patch set that reworks migration so to only commit pages that
are fully rmapped but it clashed with the THP patches and I didn't see
too much value to fix it up.  But I should probably revive it, because
it makes some things simpler.

As I replied to Hugh, it might even work for PCG_CACHE, but it's
definitely dangerous and not worth the complex dependencies it brings
on other parts of the code, so please consider 7/8 and 8/8 dropped.

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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 8/8] mm: memcg: modify PageCgroupCache non-atomically
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:13:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111124091312.GE6843@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111124091328.d28d9f55.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 09:13:28AM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:42:31 +0100
> Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> > 
> > This bit is protected by lock_page_cgroup(), there is no need for
> > locked operations when setting and clearing it.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
> 
> Hm. non-atomic ops for pc->flags seems dangerous.
> How about try to remove PCG_CACHE ? Maybe we can depends on PageAnon(page).
> We see 'page' on memcg->lru now.
> I'm sorry I forgot why we needed PCG_CACHE flag..

The problem is that we charge/uncharged pages that are not fully
rmapped and so PageAnon() is not reliable.  I forgot if there are more
places, but the commit_charge in migration was a prominent one.

I have a patch set that reworks migration so to only commit pages that
are fully rmapped but it clashed with the THP patches and I didn't see
too much value to fix it up.  But I should probably revive it, because
it makes some things simpler.

As I replied to Hugh, it might even work for PCG_CACHE, but it's
definitely dangerous and not worth the complex dependencies it brings
on other parts of the code, so please consider 7/8 and 8/8 dropped.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-11-24  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-23 15:42 [patch 0/8] mm: memcg fixlets for 3.3 Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 1/8] mm: oom_kill: remove memcg argument from oom_kill_task() Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-2-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-23 22:35     ` David Rientjes
2011-11-23 22:35       ` David Rientjes
2011-11-23 22:35       ` David Rientjes
2011-11-23 23:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-23 23:57       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-23 23:57       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-28  0:37     ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-28  0:37       ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-28  0:37       ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-24  9:07   ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24  9:07     ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 2/8] mm: unify remaining mem_cont, mem, etc. variable names to memcg Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-3-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-23 22:40     ` David Rientjes
2011-11-23 22:40       ` David Rientjes
2011-11-23 22:40       ` David Rientjes
2011-11-23 23:58     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-23 23:58       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-23 23:58       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  9:17   ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24  9:17     ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-28  0:42   ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-28  0:42     ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 3/8] mm: memcg: clean up fault accounting Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-4-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  0:00     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:00       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:00       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  9:33   ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24  9:33     ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24  9:51     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:51       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-28  0:45   ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-28  0:45     ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 4/8] mm: memcg: lookup_page_cgroup (almost) never returns NULL Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-5-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  0:01     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:01       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:01       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  9:52     ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24  9:52       ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24  9:52       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20111124095251.GD26036-VqjxzfR4DlwKmadIfiO5sKVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24 10:05         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24 10:05           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24 10:05           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]           ` <20111124100549.GH6843-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24 10:26             ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24 10:26               ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24 10:26               ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-28  9:15               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-28  9:15                 ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                 ` <20111128091518.GA9356-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28  9:34                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-28  9:34                     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-28  9:34                     ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                     ` <20111128093435.GC9356-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28 10:12                       ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-28 10:12                         ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-28 10:12                         ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-28  7:03     ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-28  7:03       ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-28  7:03       ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]       ` <CAKTCnz=CObdw0z4Qf36=afwwApuTer5C4Jp21QUko-H__q-+aA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28  9:17         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-28  9:17           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-28  9:17           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 5/8] mm: memcg: remove unneeded checks from newpage_charge() Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-6-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  0:04     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:04       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:04       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <20111124090443.d3f720c5.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  9:04         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:04           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:04           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]           ` <20111124090409.GC6843-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24 10:30             ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24 10:30               ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24 10:30               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]               ` <20111124103049.GG26036-VqjxzfR4DlwKmadIfiO5sKVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24 11:58                 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24 11:58                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24 11:58                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 6/8] mm: memcg: remove unneeded checks from uncharge_page() Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-7-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  0:06     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <20111124090619.895988e7.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  9:06         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:06           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:06           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24 10:34           ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-24 10:34             ` Michal Hocko
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 7/8] mm: memcg: modify PageCgroupAcctLRU non-atomically Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-8-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-23 18:52     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-23 18:52       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-11-23 18:52       ` Hugh Dickins
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LSU.2.00.1111231039390.2175-T/S/X05ZC3jbmfIwyoSfiQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  8:53         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  8:53           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  8:53           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  0:09     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:09       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:09       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <20111124090915.2f6e2e2c.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  8:55         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  8:55           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  8:55           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42 ` [patch 8/8] mm: memcg: modify PageCgroupCache non-atomically Johannes Weiner
2011-11-23 15:42   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1322062951-1756-9-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  0:13     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <20111124091328.d28d9f55.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  9:13         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2011-11-24  9:13           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:13           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <1322062951-1756-1-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  6:09   ` [patch 0/8] mm: memcg fixlets for 3.3 Balbir Singh
2011-11-24  6:09     ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-24  6:09     ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <CAKTCnzk0Jzq+o1Qv9hOO5ssO7U_xe1ZqUaWDhWEeJAQQPjPudg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24  9:45       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:45         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-11-24  9:45         ` Johannes Weiner

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