From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC idle 2/3] arm: Avoid invoking RCU when CPU is idle
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:40:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120203194005.GK2382@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328295309.5882.178.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 01:55:09PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 22:04 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:45:31PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
> > It is an atomic instruction or two, plus some memory barriers. Entering
> > idle is more heavyweight for RCU_FAST_NO_HZ. But as you say, it is
> > entering and exiting idle.
> >
> > But should I make an empty definition of RCU_NONIDLE() for some #define
> > or another?
> >
> > #ifdef CONFIG_YOU_TELL_ME
> > #define RCU_NONIDLE(a) \
> > do { \
> > rcu_idle_exit(); \
> > do { a; } while (0); \
> > rcu_idle_enter(); \
> > } while (0)
> > #else /* #ifdef CONFIG_YOU_TELL_ME */
> > #define RCU_NONIDLE(a) do { } while (0);
> > #endif /* #else #ifdef CONFIG_YOU_TELL_ME */
> >
> > Or is event tracing unconditional these days?
>
> I don't like it. As it binds the RCU_NONIDLE to tracepoints only without
> any annotation that they are bound. Still doesn't help when tracepoints
> are configured but not enabled.
>
> I have no problem in making a special TRACE_EVENT_IDLE() that does this
> inside the jump label. Basically what we have today is:
>
>
> if (static_branch(tracepoint_key)) {
> rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace();
> for (all attached tracepoints) {
> [...]
> }
> rcu_read_unlock_sched_notrace();
> }
>
> Ideally we want the enter/exit idle inside that static_branch()
> condition:
>
> if (static_branch(tracepoint_key)) {
> rcu_idle_exit();
> rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace();
> for (all attached tracepoints) {
> [...]
> }
> rcu_read_unlock_sched_notrace();
> rcu_idle_enter();
> }
>
> The static_branch() is the jump label code when it's a nop when disabled
> and a jump to the tracing code when enabled:
>
> nop; /* or jmp 2f */ <<--- jump label
> 1: [ normal code ]
> ret;
>
> 2: [trace code]
> jmp 1b
>
>
> The jump label when disabled is just a nop that ignores the trace code
> (although current gcc has a bug that it currently doesn't do it this
> elegantly). When tracing is enabled the nop is converted to a jump to
> the tracing code. This makes tracepoints very light weight in hot paths.
>
> Ideally, we want the exit/enter rcu idle with in the [trace code], which
> makes it not used when not needed.
So the idea is that if you have a trace event that is to be used in idle,
you use TRACE_EVENT_IDLE() rather than TRACE_EVENT() to declare that
trace event? That would work for me, and might make for fewer changes
for the architecture guys. Also, this should address the code-size
concerns we discussed yesterday.
So sounds good!
Is a DEFINE_EVENT_IDLE() also needed? Or prehaps a
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS_IDLE()? My guess is "yes" for at least one of the
two based on include/trace/events/power.h.
I will keep RCU_NONIDLE() for at least a little while (reworking comments
to point out TRACE_EVENT_IDLE() and friends) in case there turn out to
be non-tracepoint uses of RCU in the idle loop.
Thanx, Paul
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Paul E. McKenney)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC idle 2/3] arm: Avoid invoking RCU when CPU is idle
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 11:40:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120203194005.GK2382@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328295309.5882.178.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 01:55:09PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 22:04 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:45:31PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
> > It is an atomic instruction or two, plus some memory barriers. Entering
> > idle is more heavyweight for RCU_FAST_NO_HZ. But as you say, it is
> > entering and exiting idle.
> >
> > But should I make an empty definition of RCU_NONIDLE() for some #define
> > or another?
> >
> > #ifdef CONFIG_YOU_TELL_ME
> > #define RCU_NONIDLE(a) \
> > do { \
> > rcu_idle_exit(); \
> > do { a; } while (0); \
> > rcu_idle_enter(); \
> > } while (0)
> > #else /* #ifdef CONFIG_YOU_TELL_ME */
> > #define RCU_NONIDLE(a) do { } while (0);
> > #endif /* #else #ifdef CONFIG_YOU_TELL_ME */
> >
> > Or is event tracing unconditional these days?
>
> I don't like it. As it binds the RCU_NONIDLE to tracepoints only without
> any annotation that they are bound. Still doesn't help when tracepoints
> are configured but not enabled.
>
> I have no problem in making a special TRACE_EVENT_IDLE() that does this
> inside the jump label. Basically what we have today is:
>
>
> if (static_branch(tracepoint_key)) {
> rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace();
> for (all attached tracepoints) {
> [...]
> }
> rcu_read_unlock_sched_notrace();
> }
>
> Ideally we want the enter/exit idle inside that static_branch()
> condition:
>
> if (static_branch(tracepoint_key)) {
> rcu_idle_exit();
> rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace();
> for (all attached tracepoints) {
> [...]
> }
> rcu_read_unlock_sched_notrace();
> rcu_idle_enter();
> }
>
> The static_branch() is the jump label code when it's a nop when disabled
> and a jump to the tracing code when enabled:
>
> nop; /* or jmp 2f */ <<--- jump label
> 1: [ normal code ]
> ret;
>
> 2: [trace code]
> jmp 1b
>
>
> The jump label when disabled is just a nop that ignores the trace code
> (although current gcc has a bug that it currently doesn't do it this
> elegantly). When tracing is enabled the nop is converted to a jump to
> the tracing code. This makes tracepoints very light weight in hot paths.
>
> Ideally, we want the exit/enter rcu idle with in the [trace code], which
> makes it not used when not needed.
So the idea is that if you have a trace event that is to be used in idle,
you use TRACE_EVENT_IDLE() rather than TRACE_EVENT() to declare that
trace event? That would work for me, and might make for fewer changes
for the architecture guys. Also, this should address the code-size
concerns we discussed yesterday.
So sounds good!
Is a DEFINE_EVENT_IDLE() also needed? Or prehaps a
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS_IDLE()? My guess is "yes" for at least one of the
two based on include/trace/events/power.h.
I will keep RCU_NONIDLE() for at least a little while (reworking comments
to point out TRACE_EVENT_IDLE() and friends) in case there turn out to
be non-tracepoint uses of RCU in the idle loop.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-03 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-02 0:42 [PATCH RFC idle] Make arm, sh, and x86 stop using RCU when idle Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 0:43 ` [PATCH RFC idle 1/3] x86: Avoid invoking RCU when CPU is idle Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 0:43 ` [PATCH RFC idle 2/3] arm: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 0:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 2:48 ` Rob Herring
2012-02-02 2:48 ` Rob Herring
2012-02-02 4:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 4:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 3:49 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-02 3:49 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-02 4:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 4:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 17:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-02 17:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-02 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 18:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-02 18:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-02-02 19:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 19:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 22:20 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-02-02 22:20 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-02-02 22:49 ` Rob Herring
2012-02-02 22:49 ` Rob Herring
2012-02-02 23:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-02 23:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-02 23:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 23:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 23:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 23:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 2:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 2:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 6:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 6:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 19:40 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-02-03 19:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 20:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 20:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 20:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 20:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-06 21:18 ` [PATCH][RFC] tracing/rcu: Add trace_##name##__rcuidle() static tracepoint for inside rcu_idle_exit() sections Steven Rostedt
2012-02-06 21:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-06 23:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-06 23:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-07 12:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-07 12:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-07 14:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-07 14:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-08 13:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-08 13:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-07 14:40 ` Josh Triplett
2012-02-07 14:40 ` Josh Triplett
[not found] ` <20120206220502.GA21340@leaf>
2012-02-07 0:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-07 0:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-17 13:47 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <20120203025350.GF13456@leaf>
2012-02-03 6:06 ` [PATCH RFC idle 2/3] arm: Avoid invoking RCU when CPU is idle Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 6:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 23:39 ` Rob Herring
2012-02-02 23:39 ` Rob Herring
2012-02-03 18:41 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-02-03 18:41 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-02-03 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 19:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 19:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-04 14:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-04 14:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-06 19:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-06 19:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-02 23:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 23:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 19:12 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-02-03 19:12 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-02-03 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-03 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 0:43 ` [PATCH RFC idle 3/3] sh: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 0:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 1:54 ` [PATCH RFC idle 1/3] x86: " Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-02 4:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 0:48 ` [PATCH RFC idle] Make arm, sh, and x86 stop using RCU when idle Josh Triplett
2012-02-02 1:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-02 2:29 ` Paul Mundt
2012-02-02 4:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
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