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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net>
Cc: linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	agrover@redhat.com, clemens@ladisch.de, nab@linux-iscsi.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/13] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:16:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120212171617.3c0e4389@stein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F37D714.3010006@bootc.net>

On Feb 12 Chris Boot wrote:
> On 12/02/2012 14:12, Stefan Richter wrote:
> > The APIs which you include from "../../firewire/core.h" should eventually
> > be moved to<linux/firewire.h>.  I think it does not matter whether this
> > is done before or after mainline merge.  When we do so we should check
> > whether the affected APIs can be improved for usage in drivers.
> 
> I'm not even sure I use that much from there at all. Possibly only 
> fw_card_{get,put,release}(), so that could quite easily be moved into 
> <linux/firewire.h>.

Yes, I suppose this is just the card reference counting which we found
is needed for some types of userspace drivers too.  But for them it is
wrapped up in the core-cdev.c glue, thus still core-internal presently.

> > Many of the printks should surely be demoted to debug messages with
> > runtime on-and-off switch.
> 
> I've moved a lot of them to pr_debug() which doesn't emit anything 
> unless you ask it to. Are there others you think should be pr_debug() 
> that aren't?

OK, could have been a wrong impression after superficial reading.

[...]
> > sbp_login.c:
> > +			pr_notice("initiator already logged-in\n");
> > +
> > +			/*
> > +			 * SBP-2 R4 says we should return access denied, but
> > +			 * that can confuse initiators. Instead we need to
> > +			 * treat this like a reconnect, but send the login
> > +			 * response block like a fresh login.
> > +			 */
> > Are there initiators which don't bother with reconnect but send relogin
> > straight away?
> 
> I found my PowerBook did. It looks like when OpenFirmware hands over to 
> Darwin, the latter just does a login. I changed this before I had the 
> code to expire sessions once the reconnect timeout expires though so 
> it's probably unnecessary now but it would slow down the boot by several 
> seconds.

Right, this is a special case.  I remember this as an issue with Linux on
Apple PCs as well, together with a particular harddisk firmware with
somewhat unusual timing characteristics, which rejects firewire-sbp2's
login because it still considers the firmware's login valid.  The former
ieee1394 + sbp2 stack had more luck, but probably just because of slightly
different timing on their part.

You could make this a special case for initiators with Apple's OUI in
the EUI-64.  But I suppose there is no real downside to do this
unconditionally.

Anyway, the case of Apple firmware login -> OS login handover could
certainly be mentioned in the quoted comment, as the one quite common case
where this deviation from the spec is required or at least beneficial.

> > Kconfig:
> > "default n" is redundant.
> > "*older* Apple computers":  They are still manufactured with this feature.
> 
> I thought all the newer ones only did this over Thunderbolt and not 
> FireWire? I'm more than happy to change this though.

Oh, I don't actually know about these ones.
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-===-- --=- -==--
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-12 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-17 14:51 FireWire/SBP2 Target mode Chris Boot
2011-08-17 14:51 ` Chris Boot
2011-08-17 18:57 ` Stefan Richter
2011-08-18 16:19 ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-02-01 19:50   ` Andy Grover
2012-02-01 21:41     ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-01 21:41       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-02  9:22       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-02  9:22         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-02 10:09         ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-02-02 10:09           ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-02-06 13:13           ` Chris Boot
2012-02-06 14:43             ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-02-06 14:51               ` Chris Boot
2012-02-06 20:26                 ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-06 22:28                   ` Chris Boot
2012-02-06 23:00                     ` Julian Calaby
2012-02-06 23:09                       ` Chris Boot
2012-02-07  7:38                         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-07 10:06                           ` Julian Calaby
2012-02-07 19:17                           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-07 19:53                             ` Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:43 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/13] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 01/13] firewire: Add function to get speed from opaque struct fw_request Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 02/13] firewire: Add EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(fw_card_release) Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 03/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add Kconfig, Makefile and TODO Chris Boot
2012-02-13 12:50     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 04/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_base.h header Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 05/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_configfs.c Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 06/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_fabric.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-13 13:06     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]       ` <337FFBD7-6B4A-41CA-BB57-6038C935B5BF@bootc.net>
2012-02-13 19:53         ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-13 22:41         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 07/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_proto.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 08/13] firewire-sbp-target: add sbp_management_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 09/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_login.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 10/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_target_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 11/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_scsi_cmnd.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 12/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_util.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 13/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add to target Kconfig and Makefile Chris Boot
2012-02-12 14:12   ` [RFC][PATCH 00/13] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Stefan Richter
2012-02-12 15:13     ` Chris Boot
2012-02-12 16:16       ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2012-02-15 14:47   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 01/11] firewire: Add function to get speed from opaque struct fw_request Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:09       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 19:10         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 22:01           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:12             ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 02/11] firewire: Move fw_card kref functions into linux/firewire.h Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:10       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:18         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 03/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add Kconfig, Makefile and TODO Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 04/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_base.h header Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:15       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:55         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 05/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_configfs.c Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:21       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:57         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-16 13:48           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 06/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_fabric.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 07/11] firewire-sbp-target: add sbp_management_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:48       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16 10:28         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-16 14:12           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 08/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_login.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 21:00       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16 11:21         ` Chris Boot
2012-03-03 17:37           ` Stefan Richter
2012-03-15 17:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 09/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_target_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 21:27       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16 11:25         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-18 14:59           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-18 15:05             ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 10/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_scsi_cmnd.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 11/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add to target Kconfig and Makefile Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 01/11] firewire: Add function to get speed from opaque struct fw_request Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 02/11] firewire: Move fw_card kref functions into linux/firewire.h Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 03/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add Kconfig, Makefile and TODO Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 04/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_base.h header Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 05/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_configfs.c Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 06/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_fabric.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 07/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_management_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 08/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_login.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-14 10:17         ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 09/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_target_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-14 10:49         ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-14 11:33           ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 10/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_scsi_cmnd.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 11/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add to target Kconfig and Makefile Chris Boot
2012-04-12 21:02       ` [PATCH v3 00/11] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Andy Grover
2012-04-13  3:03       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-13 13:16         ` Chris Boot
2012-04-14  1:23           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-14  9:12             ` [PATCH 0/2] sbp-target: cleanup after merge into single file Chris Boot
2012-04-14  9:12               ` [PATCH 1/2] sbp-target: minor cleanups after merging " Chris Boot
2012-04-14  9:12               ` [PATCH 2/2] sbp-target: update TODO file Chris Boot
2012-04-14 21:44               ` [PATCH 0/2] sbp-target: cleanup after merge into single file Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-14 23:11                 ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-15  1:22                   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-17 10:48             ` [PATCH v3 00/11] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Chris Boot
2012-04-18  7:17               ` Nicholas A. Bellinger

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