From: Tony Lindgren <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown
<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre
<nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linaro-dev-cunTk1MwBs8s++Sfvej+rw@public.gmane.org,
Saravana Kannan <skannan-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
Russell King <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
patches-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Paul Walmsley <paul-DWxLp4Yu+b8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Linus Walleij
<linus.walleij-0IS4wlFg1OjSUeElwK9/Pw@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:33:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321193304.GO9859@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120321190741.GL3226-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
* Mark Brown <broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org> [120321 12:11]:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:38:58AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>
> > >So it would be interesting to know more about why you (or anyone else)
> > >perceive that the Kconfig changes would be harmful.
>
> > But the enthusiasm of the clock driver developers doesn't
> > necessarily translate to users of the clock APIs (other driver
> > devs). My worry with marking it as experimental in Kconfig and to a
> > certain extent in the documentation is that it will discourage the
> > driver devs from switching to the new APIs. If no one is using the
> > new APIs, then platforms can't switch to the common clock framework
>
> These aren't new APIs, the clock API has been around since forever.
> For driver authors working on anything that isn't platform specific the
> issue has been that it's not implemented at all on the overwhelming
> majority of architectures and those that do all have their own random
> implementations with their own random quirks and with no ability for
> anything except the platform to even try to do incredibly basic stuff
> like register a new clock.
>
> Simply having something, anything, in place even if it's going to churn
> is a massive step forward here for people working with clocks.
Right, and now at least the people reading this thread are pretty
aware of the yet unsolved issues with clock fwk api :)
Regards,
Tony
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:33:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321193304.GO9859@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120321190741.GL3226@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
* Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> [120321 12:11]:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:38:58AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>
> > >So it would be interesting to know more about why you (or anyone else)
> > >perceive that the Kconfig changes would be harmful.
>
> > But the enthusiasm of the clock driver developers doesn't
> > necessarily translate to users of the clock APIs (other driver
> > devs). My worry with marking it as experimental in Kconfig and to a
> > certain extent in the documentation is that it will discourage the
> > driver devs from switching to the new APIs. If no one is using the
> > new APIs, then platforms can't switch to the common clock framework
>
> These aren't new APIs, the clock API has been around since forever.
> For driver authors working on anything that isn't platform specific the
> issue has been that it's not implemented at all on the overwhelming
> majority of architectures and those that do all have their own random
> implementations with their own random quirks and with no ability for
> anything except the platform to even try to do incredibly basic stuff
> like register a new clock.
>
> Simply having something, anything, in place even if it's going to churn
> is a massive step forward here for people working with clocks.
Right, and now at least the people reading this thread are pretty
aware of the yet unsolved issues with clock fwk api :)
Regards,
Tony
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@linaro.org>,
linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@canonical.com>,
Mike Turquette <mturquette@ti.com>,
Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Deepak Saxena <dsaxena@linaro.org>,
patches@linaro.org, Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Richard Zhao <richard.zhao@linaro.org>,
Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@freescale.com>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:33:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321193304.GO9859@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120321190741.GL3226@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
* Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> [120321 12:11]:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:38:58AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>
> > >So it would be interesting to know more about why you (or anyone else)
> > >perceive that the Kconfig changes would be harmful.
>
> > But the enthusiasm of the clock driver developers doesn't
> > necessarily translate to users of the clock APIs (other driver
> > devs). My worry with marking it as experimental in Kconfig and to a
> > certain extent in the documentation is that it will discourage the
> > driver devs from switching to the new APIs. If no one is using the
> > new APIs, then platforms can't switch to the common clock framework
>
> These aren't new APIs, the clock API has been around since forever.
> For driver authors working on anything that isn't platform specific the
> issue has been that it's not implemented at all on the overwhelming
> majority of architectures and those that do all have their own random
> implementations with their own random quirks and with no ability for
> anything except the platform to even try to do incredibly basic stuff
> like register a new clock.
>
> Simply having something, anything, in place even if it's going to churn
> is a massive step forward here for people working with clocks.
Right, and now at least the people reading this thread are pretty
aware of the yet unsolved issues with clock fwk api :)
Regards,
Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-21 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 242+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-16 6:11 [PATCH v7 0/3] common clk framework Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 8:25 ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16 8:25 ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16 10:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-16 10:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-16 11:14 ` Amit Kucheria
2012-03-16 11:14 ` Amit Kucheria
2012-03-16 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 21:40 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 21:40 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 21:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 21:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 22:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Turquette, Mike
[not found] ` <CAJOA=zPmy7Dwzw8EOCW_+cvy2Dv=w0TPUq7Zg_s=Y0rs+v+u2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 9:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 9:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 9:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:02 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-17 18:02 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-17 18:02 ` Turquette, Mike
[not found] ` <CAJOA=zNVSWR6xZEfx4hioB-Q7M6PsrP9gdvJc1t+YN=QVE=83w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 20:29 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-17 20:29 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-17 20:29 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20120317202931.GN3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 21:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 21:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 21:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 23:40 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:40 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-21 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203161509470.4395-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 23:47 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 23:47 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 23:47 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20120316234706.GJ3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 0:54 ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17 0:54 ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17 0:54 ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-17 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-17 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:31 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:31 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:31 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 3:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 7:44 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:44 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:44 ` Paul Walmsley
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210130520.30543-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 9:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 9:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 9:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 18:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 18:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 18:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:07 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120321190741.GL3226-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 19:33 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2012-03-21 19:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-03-21 19:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-03-21 19:41 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:41 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:41 ` Saravana Kannan
[not found] ` <4F6A2EF5.3010008-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 20:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 20:04 ` Saravana Kannan
[not found] ` <4F6A3446.9020809-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-22 0:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-22 0:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-22 0:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21 7:30 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:30 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:30 ` Paul Walmsley
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210018260.30543-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 13:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 13:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 13:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 6:11 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] clk: introduce the common clock framework Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-17 3:28 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-17 3:28 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 18:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 18:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:13 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 19:13 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 19:33 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:33 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:49 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 19:49 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: Fix error handling in fixed clock hardware type register fn Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: Move init fields from clk to clk_hw Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:20 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 7:20 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 7:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 8:13 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 8:13 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 9:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 9:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 10:17 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 10:17 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 10:17 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 18:14 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 18:14 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 20:14 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 20:14 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 22:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 22:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-22 3:23 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-22 3:23 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 14:18 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 14:18 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 18:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 18:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 20:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 20:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:12 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 23:12 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 1:47 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 1:47 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 3:01 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:01 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 4:35 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 4:35 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 18:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-27 18:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-27 22:27 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 22:27 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-06 1:30 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-06 1:30 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 17:59 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 17:59 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 19:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 19:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 19:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 20:17 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 20:17 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 20:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 20:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 20:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:47 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:47 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 9:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 9:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 7:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: Fix error handling in fixed clock hardware type register fn Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 7:19 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 7:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 0:13 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 0:13 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 2:32 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 2:32 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 5:45 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 5:45 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 6:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 6:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 6:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 9:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21 9:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-18 13:46 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] clk: introduce the common clock framework Shawn Guo
2012-03-18 13:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-19 18:58 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 18:58 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-18 14:07 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-18 14:07 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-19 19:00 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:00 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 11:22 ` Rajendra Nayak
2012-03-19 11:22 ` Rajendra Nayak
2012-03-19 11:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-19 11:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-19 19:09 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:09 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 14:02 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 14:02 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 17:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 17:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 23:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 3:10 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:10 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:39 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 21:39 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 21:51 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:51 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 22:12 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 22:12 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 22:32 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 22:32 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 23:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 23:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 23:28 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 23:28 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 3:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 3:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 17:08 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 17:08 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 22:25 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 22:25 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 23:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 23:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 23:46 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 23:46 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 5:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-21 5:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-16 6:11 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] clk: basic clock hardware types Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 12:25 ` Richard Zhao
2012-03-16 12:25 ` Richard Zhao
2012-03-16 16:51 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 16:51 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 10:57 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] common clk framework Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 10:57 ` Sascha Hauer
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