From: skannan@codeaurora.org (Saravana Kannan)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 2/3] clk: introduce the common clock framework
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:25:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F738FEA.9020109@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJOA=zM0_czNzdqXfJDn8vzfpVLywBvYTg3SxKs6BHUOsRNd9w@mail.gmail.com>
On 03/28/2012 10:08 AM, Turquette, Mike wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Saravana Kannan<skannan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
snip
>> I think there is still a problem with not being able to differentiate
>> between pre-change recalc and post-change recalc. This applies for any set
>> parent and set rate on a clock that has children.
>>
>> Consider this simple example:
>> * Divider clock B is fed from clock A.
>> * Clock B can never output> 120 MHz due to downstream
>> HW/clock limitations.
>> * Clock A is running at 200 MHz
>> * Clock B divider is set to 2.
>>
>> Now, say the rate of clock A is changing from 200 MHz to 300 MHz (due to set
>> rate or set parent). In this case, the clock B divider should be set to 3
>> pre-rate change to guarantee that the output of clock B is never> 120 MHz.
>> So the rate of clock B will go from 100 MHz (200/2) to 66 MHz (200/3) to 100
>> MHz (300/3) and everything is good.
>>
>> Assume we somehow managed to do the above. So, now clock A is at 300 MHz,
>> clock B divider is at 3 and the clock B output is 100 MHz.
>>
>> Now, say the rate of clock A changes from 300 MHz to 100 MHz. In this case
>> the clock B divider should only be changed post rate change. If we do it pre
>> rate change, then the output will go from 100 MHz (300/3) to 150 MHz (300/1)
>> to 100 MHz (100/1). We went past the 120 MHz limit of clock B's output rate.
>>
>> If we do this post rate change, we can do this without exceeding the max
>> output limit of clock B. It will go from 100 MHz (300/3) to 33 MHz (100/3)
>> to 100 MHz (100/1). We never went past the 120 MHz limit.
>>
>> So, at least for this reason above, I think we need to pass a pre/post
>> parameter to the recalc ops.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. But the case above is a separate issue from
what I mention below. What are your thoughts on handling this? Pass
"msg" to recalc_rates?
>> While we are at it, we should probably just add a failure option for recalc
>> to make it easy to reject unacceptable rate changes. To keep the clock
>> framework code simpler, you could decide to allow errors only for the
>> pre-change recalc calls. That way, the error case roll back code won't be
>> crazy.
>
> recalc is too late to catch this. I think you mean round_rate. We
> want to determine which rate changes are out-of-spec during
> clk_calc_new_rates (for clk_set_rate) which involves round_rate being
> a bit smarter about what it can and cannot do.
The case I'm referring to is set_parent(). set_rate() and set_parent()
have a lot of common implications and it doesn't look like the clock
framework is handling the common cases the same way for both
set_parent() and set_rate().
It almost feels like set_parent() and set_rate() should just be wrappers
around some common function that handles most of the work. After all,
set_parent() is just a slimmed down version of set_rate(). Set rate is
just a combination of set parent and set divider.
>
> Anyways I'm looking at ways to do this in my clk-dependencies branch.
>
Are you also looking into the pre/post rate change divider handling case
I mentioned above?
Thanks,
Saravana
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From: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
To: "Turquette, Mike" <mturquette@ti.com>
Cc: Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>, Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
patches@linaro.org, Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org,
Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@canonical.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Arnd Bergman <arnd.bergmann@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/3] clk: introduce the common clock framework
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:25:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F738FEA.9020109@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJOA=zM0_czNzdqXfJDn8vzfpVLywBvYTg3SxKs6BHUOsRNd9w@mail.gmail.com>
On 03/28/2012 10:08 AM, Turquette, Mike wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Saravana Kannan<skannan@codeaurora.org> wrote:
snip
>> I think there is still a problem with not being able to differentiate
>> between pre-change recalc and post-change recalc. This applies for any set
>> parent and set rate on a clock that has children.
>>
>> Consider this simple example:
>> * Divider clock B is fed from clock A.
>> * Clock B can never output> 120 MHz due to downstream
>> HW/clock limitations.
>> * Clock A is running at 200 MHz
>> * Clock B divider is set to 2.
>>
>> Now, say the rate of clock A is changing from 200 MHz to 300 MHz (due to set
>> rate or set parent). In this case, the clock B divider should be set to 3
>> pre-rate change to guarantee that the output of clock B is never> 120 MHz.
>> So the rate of clock B will go from 100 MHz (200/2) to 66 MHz (200/3) to 100
>> MHz (300/3) and everything is good.
>>
>> Assume we somehow managed to do the above. So, now clock A is at 300 MHz,
>> clock B divider is at 3 and the clock B output is 100 MHz.
>>
>> Now, say the rate of clock A changes from 300 MHz to 100 MHz. In this case
>> the clock B divider should only be changed post rate change. If we do it pre
>> rate change, then the output will go from 100 MHz (300/3) to 150 MHz (300/1)
>> to 100 MHz (100/1). We went past the 120 MHz limit of clock B's output rate.
>>
>> If we do this post rate change, we can do this without exceeding the max
>> output limit of clock B. It will go from 100 MHz (300/3) to 33 MHz (100/3)
>> to 100 MHz (100/1). We never went past the 120 MHz limit.
>>
>> So, at least for this reason above, I think we need to pass a pre/post
>> parameter to the recalc ops.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. But the case above is a separate issue from
what I mention below. What are your thoughts on handling this? Pass
"msg" to recalc_rates?
>> While we are at it, we should probably just add a failure option for recalc
>> to make it easy to reject unacceptable rate changes. To keep the clock
>> framework code simpler, you could decide to allow errors only for the
>> pre-change recalc calls. That way, the error case roll back code won't be
>> crazy.
>
> recalc is too late to catch this. I think you mean round_rate. We
> want to determine which rate changes are out-of-spec during
> clk_calc_new_rates (for clk_set_rate) which involves round_rate being
> a bit smarter about what it can and cannot do.
The case I'm referring to is set_parent(). set_rate() and set_parent()
have a lot of common implications and it doesn't look like the clock
framework is handling the common cases the same way for both
set_parent() and set_rate().
It almost feels like set_parent() and set_rate() should just be wrappers
around some common function that handles most of the work. After all,
set_parent() is just a slimmed down version of set_rate(). Set rate is
just a combination of set parent and set divider.
>
> Anyways I'm looking at ways to do this in my clk-dependencies branch.
>
Are you also looking into the pre/post rate change divider handling case
I mentioned above?
Thanks,
Saravana
--
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.
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2012-03-16 6:11 [PATCH v7 0/3] common clk framework Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] Documentation: common clk API Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 8:25 ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16 8:25 ` Linus Walleij
2012-03-16 10:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-16 10:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-16 11:14 ` Amit Kucheria
2012-03-16 11:14 ` Amit Kucheria
2012-03-16 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 20:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 21:40 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 21:40 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 21:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 21:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 22:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:21 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 22:33 ` Turquette, Mike
[not found] ` <CAJOA=zPmy7Dwzw8EOCW_+cvy2Dv=w0TPUq7Zg_s=Y0rs+v+u2w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 9:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 9:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 9:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:02 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-17 18:02 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-17 18:02 ` Turquette, Mike
[not found] ` <CAJOA=zNVSWR6xZEfx4hioB-Q7M6PsrP9gdvJc1t+YN=QVE=83w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 20:29 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-17 20:29 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-17 20:29 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20120317202931.GN3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 21:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 21:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 21:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 23:40 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:40 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-21 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203161509470.4395-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-16 23:47 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 23:47 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 23:47 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20120316234706.GJ3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-17 0:54 ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17 0:54 ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17 0:54 ` Rob Herring
2012-03-17 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-17 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-17 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:31 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:31 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:31 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 3:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 3:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 7:44 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:44 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:44 ` Paul Walmsley
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210130520.30543-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 9:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 9:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 9:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 18:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 18:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 18:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:07 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:07 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120321190741.GL3226-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 19:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-03-21 19:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-03-21 19:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-03-21 19:41 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:41 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 19:41 ` Saravana Kannan
[not found] ` <4F6A2EF5.3010008-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 20:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 20:04 ` Saravana Kannan
[not found] ` <4F6A3446.9020809-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-21 20:10 ` Mark Brown
2012-03-22 0:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-22 0:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-22 0:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21 7:30 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:30 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 7:30 ` Paul Walmsley
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210018260.30543-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 13:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 13:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-21 13:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 6:11 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] clk: introduce the common clock framework Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-17 3:28 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-17 3:28 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 18:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 18:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:13 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 19:13 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 19:33 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:33 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:49 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-19 19:49 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: Fix error handling in fixed clock hardware type register fn Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: Move init fields from clk to clk_hw Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 3:38 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:20 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 7:20 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 7:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 8:13 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 8:13 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 9:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 9:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 10:17 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 10:17 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 10:17 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 18:14 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 18:14 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 20:14 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 20:14 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 22:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 22:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-22 3:23 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-22 3:23 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 14:18 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 14:18 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 18:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 18:10 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 20:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 20:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:12 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 23:12 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 1:47 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 1:47 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 3:01 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:01 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 4:35 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 4:35 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 18:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-27 18:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-27 22:27 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-27 22:27 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-06 1:30 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-06 1:30 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 17:59 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 17:59 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 19:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 19:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 19:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 20:17 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 20:17 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-04-11 20:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 20:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-04-11 20:21 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:47 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-20 23:47 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-03-21 9:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-21 9:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 7:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: Fix error handling in fixed clock hardware type register fn Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 7:19 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-20 7:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 7:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 0:13 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 0:13 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 2:32 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 2:32 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 5:45 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 5:45 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 6:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 6:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 6:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 9:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21 9:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 19:56 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-18 13:46 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] clk: introduce the common clock framework Shawn Guo
2012-03-18 13:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-19 18:58 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 18:58 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-18 14:07 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-18 14:07 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-19 19:00 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:00 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 11:22 ` Rajendra Nayak
2012-03-19 11:22 ` Rajendra Nayak
2012-03-19 11:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-19 11:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2012-03-19 19:09 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:09 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-19 19:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 14:02 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 14:02 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-20 17:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 17:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-20 23:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 23:53 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 3:10 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-21 3:10 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:39 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 21:39 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 21:51 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 21:51 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 22:12 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 22:12 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 22:32 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 22:32 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 23:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 23:04 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-23 23:28 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-23 23:28 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 3:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 3:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 17:08 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 17:08 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 22:25 ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2012-03-28 22:25 ` Saravana Kannan
2012-03-28 23:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-28 23:49 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 23:46 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-20 23:46 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-21 5:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-21 5:46 ` Shawn Guo
2012-03-16 6:11 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] clk: basic clock hardware types Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 6:11 ` Mike Turquette
2012-03-16 12:25 ` Richard Zhao
2012-03-16 12:25 ` Richard Zhao
2012-03-16 16:51 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 16:51 ` Turquette, Mike
2012-03-16 10:57 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] common clk framework Sascha Hauer
2012-03-16 10:57 ` Sascha Hauer
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