From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: account VMA before forced-COW via /proc/pid/mem
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:41:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120404154148.GA7105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F7C1B67.6030300@openvz.org>
On 04/04, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>> On 04/02, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>>
>>> Currently kernel does not account read-only private mappings into memory commitment.
>>> But these mappings can be force-COW-ed in get_user_pages().
>>
>> Heh. tail -n3 Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting
>> may be you should update it then.
>
> I just wonder how fragile this accounting...
I meant, this patch could also remove this "TODO" from the docs.
>> Can't really comment the patch, this is not my area. Still,
>>
>>> + down_write(&mm->mmap_sem);
>>> + *pvma = vma = find_vma(mm, addr);
>>> + if (vma&& vma->vm_start<= addr) {
>>> + ret = vma->vm_end - addr;
>>> + if ((vma->vm_flags& (VM_ACCOUNT | VM_NORESERVE | VM_SHARED |
>>> + VM_HUGETLB | VM_MAYWRITE)) == VM_MAYWRITE) {
>>> + if (!security_vm_enough_memory_mm(mm, vma_pages(vma)))
>>
>> Oooooh, the whole vma. Say, gdb installs the single breakpoint into
>> the huge .text mapping...
>
> We cannot split vma right there, this will be really weird. =)
Sure, I understand why you did it this way.
>> I am not sure, but probably you want to check at least VM_IO/PFNMAP
>> as well. We do not want to charge this memory and retry with FOLL_FORCE
>> before vm_ops->access(). Say, /dev/mem
>
> No, VM_IO/PFNMAP aren't affect accounting, there is VM_NORESERVE for this.
You misunderstood. Again, I can be wrong, but.
Suppose the task mmmaps /dev/mem (for example). This vma doesn't have
VM_NORESERVE (but it has VM_IO).
gup() fails correctly with or without FOLL_FORCE, we should fallback
to vma_ops->access().
However. With your patch __access_remote_vm() tries gup() without
FOLL_FORCE first and wrongly assumes that it fails because it neeeds
FOLL_FORCE and we are going to force-cow.
So __account_vma() adds VM_ACCOUNT before (unnecessary) retry, and
this is unnecessary too and wrong.
>> Hmm. OTOH, if I am right then mprotect_fixup() should be fixed??
>
> mprotect_fixup() does not account area if it already accounted, so all ok.
No, I meant another thing. But yes, I think I was wrong, mprotect_fixup()
is fine.
>> We drop ->mmap_sem... Say, the task does mremap() in between and
>> len == 2 * PAGE_SIZE. Then, for example, copy_to_user_page() can
>> write to the same page twice. Perhaps not a problem in practice,
>> I dunno.
>
> I have an old unfinished patch which implements upgrade_read() for rw-semaphore =)
Interesting ;)
Oleg.
--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: account VMA before forced-COW via /proc/pid/mem
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:41:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120404154148.GA7105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F7C1B67.6030300@openvz.org>
On 04/04, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>> On 04/02, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>>
>>> Currently kernel does not account read-only private mappings into memory commitment.
>>> But these mappings can be force-COW-ed in get_user_pages().
>>
>> Heh. tail -n3 Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting
>> may be you should update it then.
>
> I just wonder how fragile this accounting...
I meant, this patch could also remove this "TODO" from the docs.
>> Can't really comment the patch, this is not my area. Still,
>>
>>> + down_write(&mm->mmap_sem);
>>> + *pvma = vma = find_vma(mm, addr);
>>> + if (vma&& vma->vm_start<= addr) {
>>> + ret = vma->vm_end - addr;
>>> + if ((vma->vm_flags& (VM_ACCOUNT | VM_NORESERVE | VM_SHARED |
>>> + VM_HUGETLB | VM_MAYWRITE)) == VM_MAYWRITE) {
>>> + if (!security_vm_enough_memory_mm(mm, vma_pages(vma)))
>>
>> Oooooh, the whole vma. Say, gdb installs the single breakpoint into
>> the huge .text mapping...
>
> We cannot split vma right there, this will be really weird. =)
Sure, I understand why you did it this way.
>> I am not sure, but probably you want to check at least VM_IO/PFNMAP
>> as well. We do not want to charge this memory and retry with FOLL_FORCE
>> before vm_ops->access(). Say, /dev/mem
>
> No, VM_IO/PFNMAP aren't affect accounting, there is VM_NORESERVE for this.
You misunderstood. Again, I can be wrong, but.
Suppose the task mmmaps /dev/mem (for example). This vma doesn't have
VM_NORESERVE (but it has VM_IO).
gup() fails correctly with or without FOLL_FORCE, we should fallback
to vma_ops->access().
However. With your patch __access_remote_vm() tries gup() without
FOLL_FORCE first and wrongly assumes that it fails because it neeeds
FOLL_FORCE and we are going to force-cow.
So __account_vma() adds VM_ACCOUNT before (unnecessary) retry, and
this is unnecessary too and wrong.
>> Hmm. OTOH, if I am right then mprotect_fixup() should be fixed??
>
> mprotect_fixup() does not account area if it already accounted, so all ok.
No, I meant another thing. But yes, I think I was wrong, mprotect_fixup()
is fine.
>> We drop ->mmap_sem... Say, the task does mremap() in between and
>> len == 2 * PAGE_SIZE. Then, for example, copy_to_user_page() can
>> write to the same page twice. Perhaps not a problem in practice,
>> I dunno.
>
> I have an old unfinished patch which implements upgrade_read() for rw-semaphore =)
Interesting ;)
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-04 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-02 15:36 [PATCH RFC] mm: account VMA before forced-COW via /proc/pid/mem Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-02 15:36 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-03 14:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-03 14:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-04 9:59 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-04 9:59 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-04 15:41 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-04-04 15:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 8:31 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-05 8:31 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-07 4:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-07 4:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-07 5:11 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-07 5:11 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2012-04-10 0:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-10 0:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-07 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-07 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-10 1:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-10 1:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-04-10 1:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-10 1:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20120404154148.GA7105@redhat.com \
--to=oleg@redhat.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=hughd@google.com \
--cc=khlebnikov@openvz.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.