From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2] ARM: DT: Add binding for GIC virtualization extentions (VGIC)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:53:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205101053.09954.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed0ce2390716adbfc949f86c16dab996@localhost>
On Wednesday 09 May 2012, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >
> > Sounds good. I don't have a strong preference whether that should be a
> > property like you suggest or a separate "compatible" value, maybe Rob or
> > Grant can comment on what they prefer.
>
> At the moment, the compatible string should be pretty explicit, as it is
> not possible to build an A7 or A15 based SoC without the virtualization
> extensions.
Ok, makes sense. Then again, if you run an A15 guests on an A15 host,
the virtual GIC would not have those extensions, right?
> > On the guest side, is it guaranteed that the virtual GIC looks like
> > a real GIC without those extensions? If the actual behavior depends on
> > the hypervisor, it might still make sense to add another flag in there
> > to tell that it's virtual, even if we don't require it for now.
>
> Nothing is really guaranteed, as the VGIC only exposes a GIC CPU interface
> to the guest, and the distributor has to be modeled by the hypervisor. But
> if the difference is observable by the guest, is it still a GIC? And how to
> differentiate between behavior A and behavior B with a single flag?
Right, in that case, we would probably want a hypervisor specific compatible
property to identify it.
> My take would be that if the guest can tell the difference, than it
> shouldn't be called a GIC, and have separate bindings. Or at least a
> different compatible string that we could use to enable quirks in the
> driver.
Ok, good.
Arnd
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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
david.vrabel-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ARM: DT: Add binding for GIC virtualization extentions (VGIC)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:53:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205101053.09954.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed0ce2390716adbfc949f86c16dab996@localhost>
On Wednesday 09 May 2012, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> >
> > Sounds good. I don't have a strong preference whether that should be a
> > property like you suggest or a separate "compatible" value, maybe Rob or
> > Grant can comment on what they prefer.
>
> At the moment, the compatible string should be pretty explicit, as it is
> not possible to build an A7 or A15 based SoC without the virtualization
> extensions.
Ok, makes sense. Then again, if you run an A15 guests on an A15 host,
the virtual GIC would not have those extensions, right?
> > On the guest side, is it guaranteed that the virtual GIC looks like
> > a real GIC without those extensions? If the actual behavior depends on
> > the hypervisor, it might still make sense to add another flag in there
> > to tell that it's virtual, even if we don't require it for now.
>
> Nothing is really guaranteed, as the VGIC only exposes a GIC CPU interface
> to the guest, and the distributor has to be modeled by the hypervisor. But
> if the difference is observable by the guest, is it still a GIC? And how to
> differentiate between behavior A and behavior B with a single flag?
Right, in that case, we would probably want a hypervisor specific compatible
property to identify it.
> My take would be that if the guest can tell the difference, than it
> shouldn't be called a GIC, and have separate bindings. Or at least a
> different compatible string that we could use to enable quirks in the
> driver.
Ok, good.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-10 10:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-09 17:57 [PATCH v2] ARM: DT: Add binding for GIC virtualization extentions (VGIC) Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 17:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 19:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-09 19:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-09 19:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 19:36 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 20:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-09 20:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-09 20:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 20:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 20:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-09 20:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-09 21:34 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-09 21:34 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-10 10:53 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-05-10 10:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-05-10 11:11 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-10 11:11 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-11 15:11 ` Grant Likely
2012-05-11 15:11 ` Grant Likely
2012-05-11 15:10 ` Grant Likely
2012-05-11 15:10 ` Grant Likely
2012-05-11 14:14 ` David Vrabel
2012-05-11 14:14 ` David Vrabel
2012-05-11 14:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-11 14:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2012-05-11 14:43 ` David Vrabel
2012-05-11 14:43 ` David Vrabel
2012-05-11 15:15 ` Grant Likely
2012-05-11 15:15 ` Grant Likely
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