meta-systemd

meta-systemd

[Andreas Müller]

Hi

happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.

In README is written:

> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
>
> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded

Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of this layer

* systemd.bbclass
* all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd
* bbappends for all recipes with systemd support.

Is this correct?

Andreas

Re: meta-systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 17-05-12 15:07, Andreas Müller schreef:
> Hi
> 
> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.
> 
> In README is written:
> 
>> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
>> 
>> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
> 
> Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of this
> layer
> 
> * systemd.bbclass * all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd * bbappends for
> all recipes with systemd support.
> 
> Is this correct?

Correct. The bbappends will likely cause dependencies on non-oecore layers,
but so be it. We might need to set the unbreak-me flag for missing bb files
that match our bbappends.
Unless people actually start reporting the bugs they encounter by including
meta-oe...
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Re: meta-systemd

[Andreas Müller]

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
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> Op 17-05-12 15:07, Andreas Müller schreef:
>> Hi
>>
>> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.
>>
>> In README is written:
>>
>>> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
>>>
>>> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
>>
>> Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of this
>> layer
>>
>> * systemd.bbclass * all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd * bbappends for
>> all recipes with systemd support.
>>
>> Is this correct?
>
> Correct. The bbappends will likely cause dependencies on non-oecore layers,
> but so be it. We might need to set the unbreak-me flag for missing bb files
> that match our bbappends.
> Unless people actually start reporting the bugs they encounter by including
> meta-oe...
Two more questions:

1. Has anybody patches in queue to fill meta-systemd? If not I would
stand up to prepare some.
2. Any complaints against the original idea to RRECOMMEND *-systemd
package as suggested [1] to avoid *-systemd packages in tasks/images.
AFAICR this was NAKed because a distro-var was necessary.

Andreas

[1] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2012-February/037750.html

Re: meta-systemd

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:18:26PM +0200, Andreas M?ller wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
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> > Op 17-05-12 15:07, Andreas M?ller schreef:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.
> >>
> >> In README is written:
> >>
> >>> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
> >>>
> >>> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
> >>
> >> Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of this
> >> layer
> >>
> >> * systemd.bbclass * all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd * bbappends for
> >> all recipes with systemd support.
> >>
> >> Is this correct?
> >
> > Correct. The bbappends will likely cause dependencies on non-oecore layers,
> > but so be it. We might need to set the unbreak-me flag for missing bb files
> > that match our bbappends.
> > Unless people actually start reporting the bugs they encounter by including
> > meta-oe...

Great! Glad to see progress in this area.


> Two more questions:
> 
> 1. Has anybody patches in queue to fill meta-systemd? If not I would
> stand up to prepare some.

I bet Koen has patches queued up - it was on his backburner since BSP Summit 
we had in early April... :)

-- 
Denys

Re: meta-systemd

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

> > >> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.

BTW, http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-systemd/

-- 
Denys

Re: meta-systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 18-05-12 06:28, Denys Dmytriyenko schreef:
>>>>> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is 
>>>>> planned.
> 
> BTW, http://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/meta-systemd/

Yeah, the words "shameless" and "rip off" come to mind. It even violates the
meta-oe license.

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Re: meta-systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 17-05-12 22:18, Andreas Müller schreef:
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> wrote:
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>> Op 17-05-12 15:07, Andreas Müller schreef:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.
>>> 
>>> In README is written:
>>> 
>>>> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
>>>> 
>>>> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
>>> 
>>> Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of
>>> this layer
>>> 
>>> * systemd.bbclass * all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd * bbappends
>>> for all recipes with systemd support.
>>> 
>>> Is this correct?
>> 
>> Correct. The bbappends will likely cause dependencies on non-oecore
>> layers, but so be it. We might need to set the unbreak-me flag for
>> missing bb files that match our bbappends. Unless people actually start
>> reporting the bugs they encounter by including meta-oe...
> Two more questions:
> 
> 1. Has anybody patches in queue to fill meta-systemd? If not I would 
> stand up to prepare some.

The ones I had don't apply anymore.

> 2. Any complaints against the original idea to RRECOMMEND *-systemd 
> package as suggested [1] to avoid *-systemd packages in tasks/images. 
> AFAICR this was NAKed because a distro-var was necessary.

That's a statement, not a question :) I've been discussing this a lot the
past few months (conferences, irc, jabber) and I think we should have a
distro feature for every init system: sysvinit, systemd, upstart, openrc,
etc. I'm not sure if those would need to be mutually exclusive or not.

And finally: let's not make a lot of subpackages for things containing only
tmpfiles.d snippets. Consistency is good, but don't go overboard.

regards,

Koen
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Re: meta-systemd

[Andreas Müller]

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> wrote:
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> Op 17-05-12 15:07, Andreas Müller schreef:
>> Hi
>>
>> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.
>>
>> In README is written:
>>
>>> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
>>>
>>> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
>>
>> Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of this
>> layer
>>
>> * systemd.bbclass * all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd * bbappends for
>> all recipes with systemd support.
>>
>> Is this correct?
>
> Correct. The bbappends will likely cause dependencies on non-oecore layers,
> but so be it. We might need to set the unbreak-me flag for missing bb files
> that match our bbappends.

I started with meta-systemd and want to do some testing. The mentioned
'unbreak-me' - is it available already or and idea to be implemented?

Andreas

Re: meta-systemd

[Koen Kooi]

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Op 07-06-12 20:27, Andreas Müller schreef:
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net> 
> wrote:
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>> Op 17-05-12 15:07, Andreas Müller schreef:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> happy to see this happen I have few questions on what is planned.
>>> 
>>> In README is written:
>>> 
>>>> And we're working to break the dependency on this one:
>>>> 
>>>> URI: git://git.openembedded.org/meta-openembedded
>>> 
>>> Maybe it is a misunderstanding but I would expect for contents of 
>>> this layer
>>> 
>>> * systemd.bbclass * all from meta-oe/recipes-core/systemd *
>>> bbappends for all recipes with systemd support.
>>> 
>>> Is this correct?
>> 
>> Correct. The bbappends will likely cause dependencies on non-oecore 
>> layers, but so be it. We might need to set the unbreak-me flag for 
>> missing bb files that match our bbappends.
> 
> I started with meta-systemd and want to do some testing. The mentioned 
> 'unbreak-me' - is it available already or and idea to be implemented?

BB_DANGLINGAPPENDS_WARNONLY = "true"

in the layer.conf should work.
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