From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com>
Cc: pv-drivers@vmware.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
vm-crosstalk@vmware.com, Andrew Stiegmann <astiegmann@vmware.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [Pv-drivers] [vmw_vmci 11/11] Apply the header code to make VMCI build
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:55:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120728195535.GC4762@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120727202926.GC8262@dtor-ws.eng.vmware.com>
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:29:27PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:16:39AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:20:43AM -0700, Andrew Stiegmann wrote:
> > > > The kernel style is to use lower_case for everything.
> > > > So this would become:
> > > >
> > > > vmci_device_get()
> > > >
> > > > This is obviously a very general comment and applies everywhere.
> > >
> > > I wish I could lower case these symbols but VMCI has already existed
> > > outside the mainline Linux tree for some time now and changing these
> > > exported symbols would mean that other drivers that depend on VMCI
> > > (vSock, vmhgfs) would need to change as well. One thought that did
> > > come to mind was exporting both VMCI_Device_Get and vmci_device_get
> > > but that would likely just confuse people. So in short I have made
> > > function names lower case where possible, but exported symbols could
> > > not be changed.
> >
> > Not true at all. You want those drivers to be merged as well, right?
> > So they will need to have their functions changed, and their code as
> > well.
> >
> > Just wait until we get to the "change your functionality around"
> > requests, those will require those drivers to change. Right now we are
> > at the "silly and obvious things you did wrong" stage of the review
> > process :)
> >
> > So please fix these, and also, post these drivers as well, so we can see
> > how they interact with the core code.
> >
> > Actually, if you are going to need lots of refactoring for these
> > drivers, and the core, I would recommend putting this all in the staging
> > tree, to allow that to happen over time. That would ensure that your
> > users keep having working systems, and let you modify the interfaces
> > better and easier, than having to keep it all out-of-tree.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> Actually I think that we'd prefer to keep this in a patch-based form, at
> least for now, because majority of our users get these drivers with
> VMware Tools and will continue doing so until ditsributions start
> enabling VMCI in their kernels. Which they probably won't until VMCI
> moves form staging. We'd also have to constantly adjust drivers that we
> are not working on getting upstream at this time to work with the
> rapidly changing version of VMCI in staging, which will just add work
> for us.
That wouldn't be an issue if you just include all of the drivers in the
tree at the same time, right?
Just like what the hyper-v developers did.
greg
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com>
Cc: Andrew Stiegmann <astiegmann@vmware.com>,
pv-drivers@vmware.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
vm-crosstalk@vmware.com, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [Pv-drivers] [vmw_vmci 11/11] Apply the header code to make VMCI build
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:55:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120728195535.GC4762@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120727202926.GC8262@dtor-ws.eng.vmware.com>
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:29:27PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:16:39AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:20:43AM -0700, Andrew Stiegmann wrote:
> > > > The kernel style is to use lower_case for everything.
> > > > So this would become:
> > > >
> > > > vmci_device_get()
> > > >
> > > > This is obviously a very general comment and applies everywhere.
> > >
> > > I wish I could lower case these symbols but VMCI has already existed
> > > outside the mainline Linux tree for some time now and changing these
> > > exported symbols would mean that other drivers that depend on VMCI
> > > (vSock, vmhgfs) would need to change as well. One thought that did
> > > come to mind was exporting both VMCI_Device_Get and vmci_device_get
> > > but that would likely just confuse people. So in short I have made
> > > function names lower case where possible, but exported symbols could
> > > not be changed.
> >
> > Not true at all. You want those drivers to be merged as well, right?
> > So they will need to have their functions changed, and their code as
> > well.
> >
> > Just wait until we get to the "change your functionality around"
> > requests, those will require those drivers to change. Right now we are
> > at the "silly and obvious things you did wrong" stage of the review
> > process :)
> >
> > So please fix these, and also, post these drivers as well, so we can see
> > how they interact with the core code.
> >
> > Actually, if you are going to need lots of refactoring for these
> > drivers, and the core, I would recommend putting this all in the staging
> > tree, to allow that to happen over time. That would ensure that your
> > users keep having working systems, and let you modify the interfaces
> > better and easier, than having to keep it all out-of-tree.
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> Actually I think that we'd prefer to keep this in a patch-based form, at
> least for now, because majority of our users get these drivers with
> VMware Tools and will continue doing so until ditsributions start
> enabling VMCI in their kernels. Which they probably won't until VMCI
> moves form staging. We'd also have to constantly adjust drivers that we
> are not working on getting upstream at this time to work with the
> rapidly changing version of VMCI in staging, which will just add work
> for us.
That wouldn't be an issue if you just include all of the drivers in the
tree at the same time, right?
Just like what the hyper-v developers did.
greg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-28 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-26 23:39 [vmw_vmci 00/11] VMCI for Linux Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 01/11] Apply VMCI context code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:48 ` Greg KH
2012-07-26 23:48 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 0:01 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 0:01 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 02/11] Apply VMCI datagram code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 03/11] Apply VMCI doorbell code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 04/11] Apply VMCI driver code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 05/11] Apply VMCI event code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 06/11] Apply dynamic array code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 07/11] Apply VMCI hash table Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:49 ` Greg KH
2012-07-26 23:49 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 0:01 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 0:01 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 08/11] Apply VMCI queue pairs Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 09/11] Apply VMCI resource code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 10/11] Apply vmci routing code Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` [vmw_vmci 11/11] Apply the header code to make VMCI build Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann (stieg)
2012-07-26 23:56 ` Greg KH
2012-07-26 23:56 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-27 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-27 18:04 ` [Pv-drivers] " Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-27 18:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-27 10:34 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-07-27 10:34 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-07-27 17:20 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 17:20 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 18:16 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 18:16 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 18:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 18:39 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 18:52 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 18:52 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 20:29 ` [Pv-drivers] " Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-27 20:29 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-28 19:55 ` Greg KH [this message]
2012-07-28 19:55 ` Greg KH
2012-07-28 21:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-28 21:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-07-27 19:53 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-07-27 19:53 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-07-27 20:07 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-07-27 20:07 ` Andrew Stiegmann
2012-08-02 19:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-08-02 20:22 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-08-02 20:22 ` Sam Ravnborg
2012-08-15 20:45 ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-08-15 20:45 ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-08-02 19:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-07-26 23:47 ` [vmw_vmci 00/11] VMCI for Linux Greg KH
2012-07-26 23:47 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 1:06 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-27 1:06 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-27 1:46 ` Greg KH
2012-07-27 1:46 ` Greg KH
2012-07-31 12:48 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-31 12:48 ` Josh Boyer
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