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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>
To: Alex Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:45:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120802084541.GA15042@avionic-0098.adnet.avionic-design.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501A3A00.7070207@nvidia.com>

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On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 05:27:44PM +0900, Alex Courbot wrote:
> On Thu 02 Aug 2012 05:21:57 PM JST, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >* PGP Signed by an unknown key
> >
> >On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 05:00:13PM +0900, Alex Courbot wrote:
> >>On 07/31/2012 07:45 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >>>Oh I see. That's a little confusing. Why not just reference the relevant
> >>>resources directly in each step; something more like:
> >>>
> >>>		gpio@1 {
> >>>			action = "enable-gpio";
> >>>			gpio = <&gpio 1 0>;
> >>>		};
> >>>
> >>>I guess that might make parsing/building a little harder, since you'd
> >>>have to detect when you'd already done gpio_request() on a given GPIO
> >>>and not repeat it or something like that, but to me this makes the DT a
> >>>lot easier to comprehend.
> >>
> >>I tried to move towards having the phandles directly in the
> >>sequences themselves - that reminded me why I did not do that in the
> >>first place. Let's say we have a sequence like this (reg property
> >>omitted on purpose):
> >>
> >>	power-on-sequence {
> >>		step@0 {
> >>			regulator = <&backlight_reg>;
> >>			enable;
> >>		};
> >>		step@1 {
> >>			delay = <10000>;
> >>		};
> >>		step@2 {
> >>			pwm = <&pwm 2 5000000>;
> >>			enable;
> >>		};
> >>		step@3 {
> >>			gpio = <&gpio 28 0>;
> >>			enable;
> >>		};
> >>	};
> >>
> >>The problem is, how do we turn these phandles into the resource of
> >>interest. The type of the resource can be infered by the name of the
> >>property. The hard part is resolving the resource from the phandle -
> >>it seems like the API just does not allow to do this. GPIO has
> >>of_get_named_gpio, but AFAIK there are no equivalent for regulator
> >>consumer and PWM: the only way to use the DT with them is through
> >>get_regulator and get_pwm which work at the device level.
> >>
> >>Or is there a way that I overlooked?
> >
> >No, you are right. Perhaps we should add exported functions that do the
> >equivalent of of_pwm_request() or the regulator_dev_lookup() and
> >of_get_regulator() pair.
> 
> How would that be looked with respect to "good DT practices"? I can
> somehow understand the wish to restrain DT access to these functions
> that integrate well with current workflows. Aren't we going to be
> frowned upon if we make more low-level functions public?

Yes, I think that's exactly what will happen.

Thierry

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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>
To: Alex Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:45:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120802084541.GA15042@avionic-0098.adnet.avionic-design.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501A3A00.7070207@nvidia.com>

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On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 05:27:44PM +0900, Alex Courbot wrote:
> On Thu 02 Aug 2012 05:21:57 PM JST, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >* PGP Signed by an unknown key
> >
> >On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 05:00:13PM +0900, Alex Courbot wrote:
> >>On 07/31/2012 07:45 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >>>Oh I see. That's a little confusing. Why not just reference the relevant
> >>>resources directly in each step; something more like:
> >>>
> >>>		gpio@1 {
> >>>			action = "enable-gpio";
> >>>			gpio = <&gpio 1 0>;
> >>>		};
> >>>
> >>>I guess that might make parsing/building a little harder, since you'd
> >>>have to detect when you'd already done gpio_request() on a given GPIO
> >>>and not repeat it or something like that, but to me this makes the DT a
> >>>lot easier to comprehend.
> >>
> >>I tried to move towards having the phandles directly in the
> >>sequences themselves - that reminded me why I did not do that in the
> >>first place. Let's say we have a sequence like this (reg property
> >>omitted on purpose):
> >>
> >>	power-on-sequence {
> >>		step@0 {
> >>			regulator = <&backlight_reg>;
> >>			enable;
> >>		};
> >>		step@1 {
> >>			delay = <10000>;
> >>		};
> >>		step@2 {
> >>			pwm = <&pwm 2 5000000>;
> >>			enable;
> >>		};
> >>		step@3 {
> >>			gpio = <&gpio 28 0>;
> >>			enable;
> >>		};
> >>	};
> >>
> >>The problem is, how do we turn these phandles into the resource of
> >>interest. The type of the resource can be infered by the name of the
> >>property. The hard part is resolving the resource from the phandle -
> >>it seems like the API just does not allow to do this. GPIO has
> >>of_get_named_gpio, but AFAIK there are no equivalent for regulator
> >>consumer and PWM: the only way to use the DT with them is through
> >>get_regulator and get_pwm which work at the device level.
> >>
> >>Or is there a way that I overlooked?
> >
> >No, you are right. Perhaps we should add exported functions that do the
> >equivalent of of_pwm_request() or the regulator_dev_lookup() and
> >of_get_regulator() pair.
> 
> How would that be looked with respect to "good DT practices"? I can
> somehow understand the wish to restrain DT access to these functions
> that integrate well with current workflows. Aren't we going to be
> frowned upon if we make more low-level functions public?

Yes, I think that's exactly what will happen.

Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-02  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-27 12:05 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/3] Power sequences with PWM and DT support Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05   ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05   ` Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]   ` <1343390750-3642-2-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-27 18:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:19       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:19       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]       ` <20120727181923.GB23564-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-30  1:51         ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30  1:51           ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30  1:51           ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30  2:40           ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime Anton Vorontsov
2012-07-30  2:40             ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Anton Vorontsov
2012-07-30 20:59             ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-30 20:59               ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-30 20:59               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <201207302259.39396.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  0:51                 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-01  0:51                   ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-01  0:51                   ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-06  8:45             ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-08-06  8:45               ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-08-06  8:45               ` Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-07-27 18:20     ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:20       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:20       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-30 11:00     ` Simon Glass
2012-07-30 11:00       ` Simon Glass
2012-07-30 11:00       ` Simon Glass
2012-07-31  8:37       ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31  8:37         ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <50179933.9090501-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31  9:13           ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31  9:13             ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31  9:13             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120731091324.GA15557-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:11               ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:11                 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:11                 ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                 ` <5017AF5D.2010204-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:46                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:46                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:46                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:23         ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:23           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 11:33     ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 11:33       ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 11:33       ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31  9:51       ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31  9:51         ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <5017AA87.2040503-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:19           ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:19             ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:19             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120731101931.GB16155-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  2:50               ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01  2:50                 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01  2:50                 ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                 ` <5018997B.7010808-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  7:17                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01  7:17                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01  7:17                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:11         ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:11           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:44     ` Rob Herring
2012-07-30 15:44       ` Rob Herring
2012-07-30 15:44       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]       ` <5016ABDD.5010809-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-30 15:47         ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:47           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:47           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20120730154706.GL4468-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31  9:16             ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31  9:16               ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31  9:16               ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 22:26         ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:26           ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:26           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]           ` <50170A14.6000201-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:15             ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:15               ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:15               ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30 22:45     ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:45       ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:45       ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-31 10:32       ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:32         ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <5017B434.2010706-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:56           ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:56             ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:56             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120731105640.GD16155-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:22               ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:22                 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:22                 ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                 ` <5017CDF9.2060304-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:38                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 12:38                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 12:38                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20120731123811.GA25855-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:55                       ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:55                         ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:55                         ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01  1:47                         ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01  1:47                           ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                           ` <50188ABB.2060304-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  2:15                             ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01  2:15                               ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01  2:15                               ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01  1:42                   ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01  1:42                     ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01  1:42                     ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 14:13               ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:13                 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:13                 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:22                 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:22                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:26                   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:26                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20120731142607.GV4468-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 14:32                       ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:32                         ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:32                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20120731143235.GA21126-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 15:39                           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 15:39                             ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 15:39                             ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:19                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:19                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                               ` <20120731161954.GB4941-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 16:22                                 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:22                                   ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:22                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20120731162230.GE11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 16:42                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:42                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:42                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:50                                       ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:50                                         ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01  7:41                             ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01  7:41                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                               ` <20120801074113.GF29673-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:26                                 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:26                                   ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:26                                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20120801132651.GU11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:38                                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 13:38                                       ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 13:38                                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                       ` <20120801133814.GA19771-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:55                                         ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:55                                           ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:55                                           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                           ` <20120801135531.GW11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 14:01                                             ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 14:01                                               ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 14:01                                               ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 16:34         ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-31 16:34           ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-02  8:00       ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02  8:00         ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <501A338D.7080105-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-02  8:21           ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02  8:21             ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02  8:21             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120802082157.GA14866-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-02  8:27               ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02  8:27                 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02  8:27                 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02  8:45                 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2012-08-02  8:45                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02  9:20                   ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02  9:20                     ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 18:11             ` Mark Brown
2012-08-02 18:11               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <20120802181111.GM4537-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-03  1:15                 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-03  1:15                   ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-03  1:15                   ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                   ` <501B2642.4080805-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-04 14:12                     ` Mark Brown
2012-08-04 14:12                       ` Mark Brown
2012-08-04 14:12                       ` Mark Brown
2012-08-06  2:27                       ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-06  2:27                         ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                         ` <501F2BAA.8000808-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-06 16:16                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-06 16:16                             ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-06 16:16                             ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-07  5:10                             ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-07  5:10                               ` Alex Courbot
     [not found] ` <1343390750-3642-1-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-27 12:05   ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/3] pwm_backlight: use " Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05     ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05     ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05   ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/3] tegra: add pwm backlight device tree nodes Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05     ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05     ` Alexandre Courbot
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-07-30  3:04 Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) 함명주
2012-07-30  3:04 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt 함명주
2012-07-30  3:04 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) 함명주

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