From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot
<acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Thierry Reding
<thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>,
Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Grant Likely
<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Brown
<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:26:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50170A14.6000201@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5016ABDD.5010809-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On 07/30/2012 09:44 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On 07/27/2012 07:05 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> Some device drivers (panel backlights especially) need to follow precise
>> sequences for powering on and off, involving gpios, regulators, PWMs
>> with a precise powering order and delays to respect between each steps.
>> These sequences are board-specific, and do not belong to a particular
>> driver - therefore they have been performed by board-specific hook
>> functions to far.
>>
>> With the advent of the device tree and of ARM kernels that are not
>> board-tied, we cannot rely on these board-specific hooks anymore but
>> need a way to implement these sequences in a portable manner. This patch
>> introduces a simple interpreter that can execute such power sequences
>> encoded either as platform data or within the device tree.
>>
>
> Why not? We'll always have some amount of board code. The key is to
> limit parts that are just data. I'm not sure this is something that
> should be in devicetree.
>
> Perhaps what is needed is a better way to hook into the driver like
> notifiers?
I would answer that by asking the reverse question - why should we have
to put some data in DT, and some data into board files still?
I'd certainly argue that the sequence of which GPIOs/regulators/PWMs to
manipulate is just data.
To be honest, if we're going to have to put some parts of a board's
configuration into board files anyway, then the entirety of DT seems
useless; I'd far rather see all the configuration in one cohesive place
than arbitrarily split into two/n different locations - that would make
everything harder to maintain.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot
<acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Thierry Reding
<thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>,
Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
Grant Likely
<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Brown
<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:26:28 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50170A14.6000201@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5016ABDD.5010809-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
On 07/30/2012 09:44 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On 07/27/2012 07:05 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> Some device drivers (panel backlights especially) need to follow precise
>> sequences for powering on and off, involving gpios, regulators, PWMs
>> with a precise powering order and delays to respect between each steps.
>> These sequences are board-specific, and do not belong to a particular
>> driver - therefore they have been performed by board-specific hook
>> functions to far.
>>
>> With the advent of the device tree and of ARM kernels that are not
>> board-tied, we cannot rely on these board-specific hooks anymore but
>> need a way to implement these sequences in a portable manner. This patch
>> introduces a simple interpreter that can execute such power sequences
>> encoded either as platform data or within the device tree.
>>
>
> Why not? We'll always have some amount of board code. The key is to
> limit parts that are just data. I'm not sure this is something that
> should be in devicetree.
>
> Perhaps what is needed is a better way to hook into the driver like
> notifiers?
I would answer that by asking the reverse question - why should we have
to put some data in DT, and some data into board files still?
I'd certainly argue that the sequence of which GPIOs/regulators/PWMs to
manipulate is just data.
To be honest, if we're going to have to put some parts of a board's
configuration into board files anyway, then the entirety of DT seems
useless; I'd far rather see all the configuration in one cohesive place
than arbitrarily split into two/n different locations - that would make
everything harder to maintain.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>,
Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:26:28 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50170A14.6000201@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5016ABDD.5010809@gmail.com>
On 07/30/2012 09:44 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On 07/27/2012 07:05 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> Some device drivers (panel backlights especially) need to follow precise
>> sequences for powering on and off, involving gpios, regulators, PWMs
>> with a precise powering order and delays to respect between each steps.
>> These sequences are board-specific, and do not belong to a particular
>> driver - therefore they have been performed by board-specific hook
>> functions to far.
>>
>> With the advent of the device tree and of ARM kernels that are not
>> board-tied, we cannot rely on these board-specific hooks anymore but
>> need a way to implement these sequences in a portable manner. This patch
>> introduces a simple interpreter that can execute such power sequences
>> encoded either as platform data or within the device tree.
>>
>
> Why not? We'll always have some amount of board code. The key is to
> limit parts that are just data. I'm not sure this is something that
> should be in devicetree.
>
> Perhaps what is needed is a better way to hook into the driver like
> notifiers?
I would answer that by asking the reverse question - why should we have
to put some data in DT, and some data into board files still?
I'd certainly argue that the sequence of which GPIOs/regulators/PWMs to
manipulate is just data.
To be honest, if we're going to have to put some parts of a board's
configuration into board files anyway, then the entirety of DT seems
useless; I'd far rather see all the configuration in one cohesive place
than arbitrarily split into two/n different locations - that would make
everything harder to maintain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-30 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-27 12:05 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/3] Power sequences with PWM and DT support Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
[not found] ` <1343390750-3642-2-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-27 18:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20120727181923.GB23564-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-30 1:51 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30 1:51 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30 1:51 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30 2:40 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime Anton Vorontsov
2012-07-30 2:40 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Anton Vorontsov
2012-07-30 20:59 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-30 20:59 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-07-30 20:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201207302259.39396.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 0:51 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-01 0:51 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-01 0:51 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-06 8:45 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-08-06 8:45 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences) Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-08-06 8:45 ` Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-07-27 18:20 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-27 18:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-30 11:00 ` Simon Glass
2012-07-30 11:00 ` Simon Glass
2012-07-30 11:00 ` Simon Glass
2012-07-31 8:37 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 8:37 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <50179933.9090501-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 9:13 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 9:13 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 9:13 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120731091324.GA15557-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:11 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:11 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:11 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <5017AF5D.2010204-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:46 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:46 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:46 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:23 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:23 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 11:33 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 11:33 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 11:33 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 9:51 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 9:51 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <5017AA87.2040503-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:19 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:19 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:19 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120731101931.GB16155-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 2:50 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01 2:50 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01 2:50 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <5018997B.7010808-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 7:17 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 7:17 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 7:17 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:11 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:11 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:44 ` Rob Herring
2012-07-30 15:44 ` Rob Herring
2012-07-30 15:44 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <5016ABDD.5010809-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-30 15:47 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:47 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:47 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120730154706.GL4468-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 9:16 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 9:16 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 9:16 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 22:26 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2012-07-30 22:26 ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:26 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <50170A14.6000201-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:15 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:15 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:15 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30 22:45 ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:45 ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-30 22:45 ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-31 10:32 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 10:32 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <5017B434.2010706-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:56 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:56 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 10:56 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120731105640.GD16155-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:22 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:22 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:22 ` Mitch Bradley
[not found] ` <5017CDF9.2060304-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:38 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 12:38 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 12:38 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120731123811.GA25855-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:55 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:55 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-07-31 12:55 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01 1:47 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01 1:47 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <50188ABB.2060304-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 2:15 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01 2:15 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01 2:15 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01 1:42 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01 1:42 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-01 1:42 ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 14:13 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:13 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:13 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:22 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:22 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:26 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:26 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120731142607.GV4468-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 14:32 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:32 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:32 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120731143235.GA21126-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 15:39 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 15:39 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 15:39 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20120731161954.GB4941-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 16:22 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:22 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:22 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120731162230.GE11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 16:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:50 ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:50 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 7:41 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 7:41 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120801074113.GF29673-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:26 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:26 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:26 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120801132651.GU11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:38 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 13:38 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 13:38 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120801133814.GA19771-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:55 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:55 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01 13:55 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120801135531.GW11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 14:01 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 14:01 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-01 14:01 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 16:34 ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-31 16:34 ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-02 8:00 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 8:00 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <501A338D.7080105-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-02 8:21 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02 8:21 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02 8:21 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20120802082157.GA14866-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-02 8:27 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 8:27 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 8:27 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 8:45 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02 8:45 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02 9:20 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 9:20 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 18:11 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-02 18:11 ` Mark Brown
[not found] ` <20120802181111.GM4537-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-03 1:15 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-03 1:15 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-03 1:15 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <501B2642.4080805-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-04 14:12 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-04 14:12 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-04 14:12 ` Mark Brown
2012-08-06 2:27 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-06 2:27 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <501F2BAA.8000808-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-06 16:16 ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-06 16:16 ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-06 16:16 ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-07 5:10 ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-07 5:10 ` Alex Courbot
[not found] ` <1343390750-3642-1-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-27 12:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/3] pwm_backlight: use " Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/3] tegra: add pwm backlight device tree nodes Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` Alexandre Courbot
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
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2012-07-30 3:04 ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt 함명주
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