From: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/31] arm64: Cache maintenance routines
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:14:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120913201444.GA11692@schnuecks.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120913123850.GB25131@arm.com>
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 01:38:50PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:54PM +0100, Simon Baatz wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> ...
>
> > In case of direct I/O (and probably also in other cases like SG_IO)
> > the block layer will see pages from get_user_pages() directly, i.e.
> > also anonymous pages. Many drivers (especially emulated storage
> > drivers like dm-crypt) use flush_dcache_page() after modifying a
> > page. Although flush_dcache_page() is not even supposed to handle
> > anonymous pages, it flushes the kernel mapping of the page because of
> > this code line and everything is well on aliasing D-caches.
>
> According to the cachetlb.txt document (though not sure architecture
> ports follow it entirely), flush_dcache_page() deliberately shouldn't
> follow anonymous pages. But it seems that we do it on ARM (maybe as an
> alternative to flush_kernel_dcache_page()).
>
> > Back to arm64 (and possibly to arm with non-aliasing D-caches?), this
> > also means that the saved D-cache flush in the anonymous page case is
> > not only a slight improvement on clarity, but may avoid a
> > considerable number of D-cache flushes in some I/O situations. (If
> > it is still correct that there are no problems with the I-cache for
> > this use case.)
>
> The I-cache would be needed if the kernel modifies an executable user
> page. But I don't see a case for this yet. So with non-aliasing D-cache
> the flush_kernel_dcache_page() can be a nop.
Ok, this is true for anon pages. But, if we really need to do the D/I
flush for user mapped page cache pages in flush_dcache_page() then it
should also be done by flush_kernel_dcache_page(). In general, both
flush_dcache_page() and flush_kernel_dcache_page() need to handle the
case in which the kernel modifies such a page. (This means that in
effect, both functions should be the same in the arm64 case.)
> > If now we could additionally avoid to flush the entire I-cache for
> > every page in direct I/O operations with user mapped page cache
> > pages (e.g. direct I/O read into an mmap region)...
>
> If the page is already mapped, we don't have a later hook to be able to
> flush the caches, so we do it here. We can avoid the I-cache operation
> only if we are sure that the user would not execute code from such page.
> IOW the direct I/O wouldn't write any instructions.
>
> The powerpc implementation of flush_dcache_page() doesn't even check for
> the existence of a mapping, it always marks the page as dirty. We can do
> the same on arm64 (only leave the clear_bit part of the condition) as
> long as we know that the kernel wouldn't write new code into a page that
> is already mapped.
Yes, but how do we know?
- Simon
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From: gmbnomis@gmail.com (Simon Baatz)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 09/31] arm64: Cache maintenance routines
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:14:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120913201444.GA11692@schnuecks.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120913123850.GB25131@arm.com>
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 01:38:50PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55:54PM +0100, Simon Baatz wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> ...
>
> > In case of direct I/O (and probably also in other cases like SG_IO)
> > the block layer will see pages from get_user_pages() directly, i.e.
> > also anonymous pages. Many drivers (especially emulated storage
> > drivers like dm-crypt) use flush_dcache_page() after modifying a
> > page. Although flush_dcache_page() is not even supposed to handle
> > anonymous pages, it flushes the kernel mapping of the page because of
> > this code line and everything is well on aliasing D-caches.
>
> According to the cachetlb.txt document (though not sure architecture
> ports follow it entirely), flush_dcache_page() deliberately shouldn't
> follow anonymous pages. But it seems that we do it on ARM (maybe as an
> alternative to flush_kernel_dcache_page()).
>
> > Back to arm64 (and possibly to arm with non-aliasing D-caches?), this
> > also means that the saved D-cache flush in the anonymous page case is
> > not only a slight improvement on clarity, but may avoid a
> > considerable number of D-cache flushes in some I/O situations. (If
> > it is still correct that there are no problems with the I-cache for
> > this use case.)
>
> The I-cache would be needed if the kernel modifies an executable user
> page. But I don't see a case for this yet. So with non-aliasing D-cache
> the flush_kernel_dcache_page() can be a nop.
Ok, this is true for anon pages. But, if we really need to do the D/I
flush for user mapped page cache pages in flush_dcache_page() then it
should also be done by flush_kernel_dcache_page(). In general, both
flush_dcache_page() and flush_kernel_dcache_page() need to handle the
case in which the kernel modifies such a page. (This means that in
effect, both functions should be the same in the arm64 case.)
> > If now we could additionally avoid to flush the entire I-cache for
> > every page in direct I/O operations with user mapped page cache
> > pages (e.g. direct I/O read into an mmap region)...
>
> If the page is already mapped, we don't have a later hook to be able to
> flush the caches, so we do it here. We can avoid the I-cache operation
> only if we are sure that the user would not execute code from such page.
> IOW the direct I/O wouldn't write any instructions.
>
> The powerpc implementation of flush_dcache_page() doesn't even check for
> the existence of a mapping, it always marks the page as dirty. We can do
> the same on arm64 (only leave the clear_bit part of the condition) as
> long as we know that the kernel wouldn't write new code into a page that
> is already mapped.
Yes, but how do we know?
- Simon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-13 20:14 UTC|newest]
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2012-09-07 16:26 [PATCH v3 00/31] AArch64 Linux kernel port Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/31] arm64: Assembly macros and definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/31] arm64: Kernel booting and initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-09 17:20 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-09 17:20 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-09 23:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-09 23:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 5:53 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 5:53 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 12:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 12:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 13:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 13:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 14:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 14:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 14:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 15:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 15:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 15:21 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 15:21 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 15:21 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 16:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 16:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 16:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 16:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 20:28 ` Jon Masters
2012-09-10 20:28 ` Jon Masters
2012-09-10 16:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 16:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 12:08 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-12 12:08 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-12 13:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 13:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 15:56 ` Christopher Covington
2012-09-13 15:56 ` Christopher Covington
2012-09-13 17:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 17:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/31] arm64: Exception handling Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/31] arm64: MMU definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/31] arm64: MMU initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/31] arm64: MMU fault handling and page table management Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 07/31] arm64: Process management Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 08/31] arm64: CPU support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 16:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 16:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 09/31] arm64: Cache maintenance routines Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 16:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 16:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 17:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 17:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-14 16:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-14 16:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:35 ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-07 19:35 ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-12 9:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 9:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 21:55 ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-12 21:55 ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-13 12:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 12:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 20:14 ` Simon Baatz [this message]
2012-09-13 20:14 ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 10/31] arm64: TLB maintenance functionality Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 11/31] arm64: IRQ handling Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-12 10:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 10:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 12/31] arm64: Atomic operations Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 13/31] arm64: Device specific operations Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 14/31] arm64: DMA mapping API Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 15/31] arm64: SMP support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-08-06 0:46 ` Timur Tabi
2015-08-06 9:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-08-10 11:00 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-08-10 17:05 ` Timur Tabi
2015-08-21 16:45 ` Timur Tabi
2015-08-24 12:14 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-08-27 22:15 ` Timur Tabi
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 16/31] arm64: ELF definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 17/31] arm64: System calls handling Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:54 ` Al Viro
2012-09-07 19:54 ` Al Viro
2012-09-10 9:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 9:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 13:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 13:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 14:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 15:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 15:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 18/31] arm64: VDSO support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 19/31] arm64: Signal handling support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 20/31] arm64: User access library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 21/31] arm64: 32-bit (compat) applications support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13 9:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 9:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 9:07 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 11:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13 11:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13 15:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 15:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 15:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 22/31] arm64: Floating point and SIMD Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 23/31] arm64: Debugging support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 24/31] arm64: Add support for /proc/sys/debug/exception-trace Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 25/31] arm64: Performance counters support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 26/31] arm64: Miscellaneous library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-12 21:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 21:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 21:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 10:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13 10:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 27/31] arm64: Loadable modules Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 28/31] arm64: Generic timers support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-08 8:28 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-08 8:28 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-08 8:28 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 29/31] arm64: Miscellaneous header files Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 30/31] arm64: Build infrastructure Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 31/31] arm64: MAINTAINERS update Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-09 16:31 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-09 16:31 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-09 16:31 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 17:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 17:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 21:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-10 21:17 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-10 23:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 23:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 23:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-07 23:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/31] AArch64 Linux kernel port Olof Johansson
2012-09-07 23:25 ` Olof Johansson
2012-09-12 14:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 14:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-08 9:18 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-09-08 9:18 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-09-08 13:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-08 13:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-08 14:42 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-08 14:42 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-10 17:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 17:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 20:22 ` Jon Masters
2012-09-10 20:22 ` Jon Masters
2012-09-12 11:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-12 11:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-12 11:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
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