From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Aaron Lu <aaron.lwe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/6] scsi: sr: support runtime pm
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:01:35 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120925080133.GA1629@mint-spring.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201209242340.18318.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:40:18PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, September 24, 2012, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:55:31PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > And I'd add a comment about the next poll.
> > >
> > > This appears somewhat racy, though, because in theory a media may be inserted
> > > while we are removing power from the device. Isn't that a problem?
> >
> > Yes, this is a problem.
> > To avoid this race, I think the following needs to be done:
> > - For slot type ODD, make it such that user can't insert a disc;
> > - For tray type ODD, make it such that when user presses the eject
> > button, the tray doesn't open.
> > I'll see if this is possible, thanks for the remind.
>
> OK
Looks like this is not the right thing to do, if I lock the door user
will be confused.
>
> > > > The poll runs periodically, until the device is powered off(reflected by
> > > > the powered_off flag), in which case, the poll will simply return
> > > > 0 without touching this device.
> > >
> > > Is it useful to poll the device after it has been suspended, but not powered
> > > off?
> >
> > Yes, it is necessary to poll the device when it has been suspended with
> > power left. The reason is, we need to check if there is a media change
> > event happened, and the way to check this is to issue a
> > GET_EVENT_STATUS_NOTIFICATION comand.
> >
> > Please note that when the drive is not powered off, it will not send us
> > a notification when its eject button is pressed.
>
> I'm not sure about that, actually. If it doesn't notify us, that whole thing
> is inherently racy pretty much beyond fixing, because it is always possible
> that the user will press the eject button right after we've checked the
> status last time and right before power removal. We're going to lose that
> event, so the user will have to push the button once again in that case.
I just checked the spec again and tested, when the ODD has power, it
will also send out notifications on pressing the eject button/inserting
a disc. So we should be able to capture such a event.
>
> > > > That's correct.
> > > > AFAIK, user space does not care how often the device is polled, it
> > > > cares only one thing: when there is a media change event, please let me
> > > > know(through uevent).
> > >
> > > So that's why we do the polling, right?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Well, that's difficult.
>
> If the remote wakeup is signaled through a GPE, it should be possible to
> enable it before we actually put the device into D3cold. That may allow us
> to eliminate the races.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll update the code.
I'm thinking of enabling this GPE in sr_suspend once we decided that it
is ready to be powered off, so the time frame between sr_suspend and
when the power is actually removed in libata should be taken care of by
the GPE. If GPE fires, the notification function will request a runtime
resume of the device. Does this sound OK?
Thanks,
Aaron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-25 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-12 8:29 [PATCH v7 0/6] ZPODD patches Aaron Lu
2012-09-12 8:29 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] block: genhd: add an interface to set disk poll interval Aaron Lu
2012-09-20 20:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-12 8:29 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] scsi: sr: support runtime pm Aaron Lu
2012-09-20 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-20 20:54 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-21 1:02 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-21 20:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-24 1:20 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-24 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-24 14:52 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-24 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-25 8:01 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2012-09-25 11:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-25 14:20 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-25 14:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-09-25 14:46 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-25 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-26 1:03 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-26 11:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-26 14:52 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-26 7:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-09-27 10:46 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-09-28 8:20 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-12 8:29 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] scsi: sr: support zero power ODD(ZPODD) Aaron Lu
2012-09-20 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-21 1:39 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-21 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-27 9:26 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-27 14:42 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-27 14:55 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-27 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-24 21:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-09-12 8:29 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] scsi: pm: add may_power_off flag Aaron Lu
2012-09-12 8:29 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] scsi: sr: use may_power_off Aaron Lu
2012-09-12 8:29 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] libata: acpi: respect may_power_off flag Aaron Lu
2012-09-24 21:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-09-19 8:03 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] ZPODD patches Aaron Lu
2012-09-19 12:27 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-19 12:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-19 14:19 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-20 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-21 5:48 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-21 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-22 7:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-09-22 11:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-22 15:38 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-22 19:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-22 20:23 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-22 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-24 2:55 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-24 13:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-24 15:04 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-24 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-25 8:18 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-25 11:02 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-25 13:56 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-27 9:43 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-24 15:47 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-19 14:52 ` James Bottomley
2012-09-20 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-19 13:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-09-19 15:19 ` David Woodhouse
2012-09-20 0:34 ` Jack Wang
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[not found] ` <5064FA08.6030005@intel.com>
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2012-09-29 2:10 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] scsi: sr: support runtime pm Aaron Lu
2012-09-29 14:29 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-29 15:03 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-29 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-30 12:32 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-30 14:47 ` Alan Stern
2012-09-30 15:39 ` Aaron Lu
2012-09-30 19:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-09-30 19:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-09-29 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-30 19:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-09-30 19:43 ` Alan Stern
2012-10-01 4:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-10-08 9:27 ` Aaron Lu
2012-10-08 10:21 ` James Bottomley
2012-10-09 7:20 ` Aaron Lu
2012-10-09 14:58 ` James Bottomley
2012-10-11 7:49 ` Aaron Lu
2012-10-09 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-29 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-09-30 12:38 ` Aaron Lu
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