From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, avi@redhat.com,
Thomas Lendacky <tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] virtio-net: inline header support
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:41:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121008204145.GA17820@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vces2gxq.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 04:14:17PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Thinking about Sasha's patches, we can reduce ring usage
> > for virtio net small packets dramatically if we put
> > virtio net header inline with the data.
> > This can be done for free in case guest net stack allocated
> > extra head room for the packet, and I don't see
> > why would this have any downsides.
>
> I've been wanting to do this for the longest time... but...
>
> > Even though with my recent patches qemu
> > no longer requires header to be the first s/g element,
> > we need a new feature bit to detect this.
> > A trivial qemu patch will be sent separately.
>
> There's a reason I haven't done this. I really, really dislike "my
> implemention isn't broken" feature bits. We could have an infinite
> number of them, for each bug in each device.
>
> So my plan was to tie this assumption to the new PCI layout.
I don't object but old qemu has this limitation for s390 as well,
and that's not using PCI, right? So how do we detect
new hypervisor there?
--
MST
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Thomas Lendacky <tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, avi@redhat.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] virtio-net: inline header support
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 22:41:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121008204145.GA17820@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vces2gxq.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 04:14:17PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Thinking about Sasha's patches, we can reduce ring usage
> > for virtio net small packets dramatically if we put
> > virtio net header inline with the data.
> > This can be done for free in case guest net stack allocated
> > extra head room for the packet, and I don't see
> > why would this have any downsides.
>
> I've been wanting to do this for the longest time... but...
>
> > Even though with my recent patches qemu
> > no longer requires header to be the first s/g element,
> > we need a new feature bit to detect this.
> > A trivial qemu patch will be sent separately.
>
> There's a reason I haven't done this. I really, really dislike "my
> implemention isn't broken" feature bits. We could have an infinite
> number of them, for each bug in each device.
>
> So my plan was to tie this assumption to the new PCI layout.
I don't object but old qemu has this limitation for s390 as well,
and that's not using PCI, right? So how do we detect
new hypervisor there?
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-08 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-28 9:26 [PATCH 0/3] virtio-net: inline header support Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-28 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] virtio: add API to query ring capacity Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-28 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] virtio-net: correct capacity math on ring full Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-28 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-04 0:24 ` Rusty Russell
2012-09-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] virtio-net: put virtio net header inline with data Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-09-28 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-03 6:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] virtio-net: inline header support Rusty Russell
2012-10-03 7:10 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 1:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-04 3:34 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 4:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-04 7:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-05 7:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-05 7:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08 21:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-08 21:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-04 1:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-04 5:17 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 20:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-10-08 20:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-03 6:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-03 10:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-03 10:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-04 0:11 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 7:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-04 12:51 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 13:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-05 5:43 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-05 5:43 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-06 12:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-06 12:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 4:59 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 4:59 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 7:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 7:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-11 0:03 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:03 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 11:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 11:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 22:37 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 22:37 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 7:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-12 7:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-12 11:52 ` Cornelia Huck
2012-10-12 11:52 ` Cornelia Huck
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