From: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.ru>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: "linux-raid@vger.kernel.org" <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 3TB drives failure rate
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:49:56 +0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121029024956.30edb309@natsu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B8932A-58A5-4C1A-9C8C-DCCD5D3A1CD9@colorremedies.com>
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:34:49 -0600
Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com> wrote:
> A drive that can sit there like a bump on the log for 2 minutes before it issues an actual read failure on sector(s) means mdadm is likewise waiting, and everything above it is waiting. That's a long hang. I'd not be surprised to see users go for hard reset with such a system hang after 45 seconds let alone 2 minutes.
Which is not different from what you would get (the same hang) in a non-RAID
environment on the same drive, so I don't see how this would be specifically a
RAID-related problem.
> Anyway, the idea mdadm users can't benefit from shorter ERC is untrue. They certainly can. But the open question is why would they be getting such long error recovery times in the first place? 7 seconds is a long time.
One thing is "benefit", i.e. just a comfort issue, to prevent pauses when a
drive starts failing (but really... does that happen very often? and during
those times do you really care so that there are no pauses for error recovery,
or maybe you just want to replace the drive and still have your data safe?),
and another thing is a complete RAID failure that you'd get with a
hardware RAID controller simply because something is not within 7 seconds,
which is the whole source of that vendor-supported myth of "non-RAID drives".
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With respect,
Roman
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-28 20:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-28 12:15 3TB drives failure rate Rainer Fügenstein
2012-10-28 12:19 ` Mathias Burén
2012-10-28 12:49 ` John Robinson
2012-10-28 12:54 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-10-28 16:47 ` Ed W
2012-10-28 17:05 ` Joe Landman
2012-10-28 22:12 ` joystick
2012-10-28 22:24 ` Miles Fidelman
2012-10-28 23:59 ` joystick
2012-10-29 0:09 ` Miles Fidelman
2012-10-29 4:29 ` Roman Mamedov
2012-10-29 7:54 ` David Brown
2012-10-29 13:02 ` Phil Turmel
2012-10-30 23:54 ` 3TB drives failure rate (summary) Rainer Fügenstein
2012-10-31 12:35 ` Phil Turmel
2012-11-01 15:13 ` Miles Fidelman
2012-11-01 15:24 ` John Robinson
2012-11-01 15:39 ` Miles Fidelman
2012-11-01 16:05 ` John Robinson
2012-11-01 16:25 ` Miles Fidelman
2013-02-05 17:43 ` Adam Goryachev
2013-02-05 18:08 ` Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2013-02-05 20:34 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-10-29 13:26 ` 3TB drives failure rate Miles Fidelman
2012-10-28 19:50 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 19:59 ` Roman Mamedov
2012-10-28 20:10 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 20:16 ` Roman Mamedov
2012-10-28 20:34 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 20:49 ` Roman Mamedov [this message]
2012-10-28 20:59 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 21:07 ` Miles Fidelman
2012-10-28 20:50 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 21:07 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 21:18 ` Roman Mamedov
2012-10-28 21:24 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2012-10-28 21:45 ` Miles Fidelman
2012-10-28 22:35 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 21:51 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 21:59 ` joystick
2012-10-28 22:10 ` Phil Turmel
2012-10-29 0:12 ` joystick
2012-10-29 0:21 ` Phil Turmel
2012-10-29 0:27 ` Chris Murphy
2012-10-28 21:21 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2012-10-28 23:51 ` Peter Kieser
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