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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Robert Love <rlove@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] Support volatile range for anon vma
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:40:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121211044044.GC22698@blaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C28EB4.6030505@linaro.org>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:49:56PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> On 12/04/2012 08:18 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:13:40AM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> >>I don't think the problem is when vmas being marked VM_VOLATILE are
> >>being merged, its that when we mark the vma as *non-volatile*, and
> >>remove the VM_VOLATILE flag we merge the non-volatile vmas with
> >>neighboring vmas. So preserving the purged flag during that merge is
> >>important. Again, the example I used to trigger this was an
> >>alternating pattern of volatile and non volatile vmas, then marking
> >>the entire range non-volatile (though sometimes in two overlapping
> >>passes).
> >Understood. Thanks.
> >Below patch solves your problems? It's simple than yours.
> 
> Yea, this is nicer then my fix.
> Although I still need the purged handling in the vma merge code for
> me to see the behavior I expect in my tests.
> 
> I've integrated your patch and repushed my queue here:
> http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/jstultz/android-dev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dev/minchan-anonvol
> 
> git://git.linaro.org/people/jstultz/android-dev.git dev/minchan-anonvol
> 
> >Anyway, both yours and mine are not right fix.
> >As I mentioned, locking scheme is broken.
> >We need anon_vma_lock to handle purged and we should consider fork
> >case, too.
> Hrm. I'm sure you're right, as I've not yet fully grasped all the
> locking rules here.  Could you clarify how it is broken? And why is
> the anon_vma_lock needed to manage the purged state that is part of
> the vma itself?

If you don't hold anon->lock, merge/split/fork can race with try_to_unmap
so vma->[purged|vm_flags] would lose consistency.

> 
> thanks
> -john
> 
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Robert Love <rlove@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] Support volatile range for anon vma
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:40:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121211044044.GC22698@blaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50C28EB4.6030505@linaro.org>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 04:49:56PM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> On 12/04/2012 08:18 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:13:40AM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> >>I don't think the problem is when vmas being marked VM_VOLATILE are
> >>being merged, its that when we mark the vma as *non-volatile*, and
> >>remove the VM_VOLATILE flag we merge the non-volatile vmas with
> >>neighboring vmas. So preserving the purged flag during that merge is
> >>important. Again, the example I used to trigger this was an
> >>alternating pattern of volatile and non volatile vmas, then marking
> >>the entire range non-volatile (though sometimes in two overlapping
> >>passes).
> >Understood. Thanks.
> >Below patch solves your problems? It's simple than yours.
> 
> Yea, this is nicer then my fix.
> Although I still need the purged handling in the vma merge code for
> me to see the behavior I expect in my tests.
> 
> I've integrated your patch and repushed my queue here:
> http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/jstultz/android-dev.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/dev/minchan-anonvol
> 
> git://git.linaro.org/people/jstultz/android-dev.git dev/minchan-anonvol
> 
> >Anyway, both yours and mine are not right fix.
> >As I mentioned, locking scheme is broken.
> >We need anon_vma_lock to handle purged and we should consider fork
> >case, too.
> Hrm. I'm sure you're right, as I've not yet fully grasped all the
> locking rules here.  Could you clarify how it is broken? And why is
> the anon_vma_lock needed to manage the purged state that is part of
> the vma itself?

If you don't hold anon->lock, merge/split/fork can race with try_to_unmap
so vma->[purged|vm_flags] would lose consistency.

> 
> thanks
> -john
> 
> --
> To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-11  4:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-30  1:29 [RFC v2] Support volatile range for anon vma Minchan Kim
2012-10-30  1:29 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-31 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-31 21:35   ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-31 21:59   ` Paul Turner
2012-10-31 21:59     ` Paul Turner
2012-10-31 22:56     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-31 22:56       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-11-01  1:15       ` Paul Turner
2012-11-01  1:15         ` Paul Turner
2012-11-01  1:46         ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  1:46           ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  1:25       ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  1:25         ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  2:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-11-01  2:01           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-11-05 23:54       ` Arun Sharma
2012-11-05 23:54         ` Arun Sharma
2012-11-06  1:49         ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-06  1:49           ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-06  2:03           ` Arun Sharma
2012-11-06  2:03             ` Arun Sharma
2012-11-01  0:50     ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  0:50       ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  1:22       ` Paul Turner
2012-11-01  1:22         ` Paul Turner
2012-11-01  1:33         ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  1:33           ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  0:21   ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01  0:21     ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-02  1:43 ` Bob Liu
2012-11-02  1:43   ` Bob Liu
2012-11-02  2:37   ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-02  2:37     ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-22  0:36 ` John Stultz
2012-11-22  0:36   ` John Stultz
2012-11-29  4:18   ` John Stultz
2012-11-29  4:18     ` John Stultz
2012-12-04  0:00     ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-04  0:00       ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-04  0:57       ` John Stultz
2012-12-04  0:57         ` John Stultz
2012-12-04  7:22         ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-04  7:22           ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-04 19:13           ` John Stultz
2012-12-04 19:13             ` John Stultz
2012-12-05  4:18             ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-05  4:18               ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-08  0:49               ` John Stultz
2012-12-08  0:49                 ` John Stultz
2012-12-11  4:40                 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2012-12-11  4:40                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-05  7:01             ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-05  7:01               ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-08  0:20               ` John Stultz
2012-12-08  0:20                 ` John Stultz
2012-12-11  4:34                 ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-11  4:34                   ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-03 23:50   ` Minchan Kim
2012-12-03 23:50     ` Minchan Kim

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