From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] uprobes: Kill the pointless inode/uc checks in register/unregister
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:15:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121213131540.GA11862@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121213103548.GC29086@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 12/13, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
>
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> [2012-12-10 20:12:32]:
>
> > On 12/10, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > >
> > > * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> [2012-11-23 21:28:06]:
> > >
> > > > register/unregister verifies that inode/uc != NULL. For what?
> > > > This really looks like "hide the potential problem", the caller
> > > > should pass the valid data.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agree that users should pass valid data.
> > > I do understand that we expect the users to be knowledge-able.
> > > Also users are routed thro in-kernel api that does this check.
> > >
> > > However from an api perspective, if a user passes invalid data, do we
> > > want the system to crash.
> > >
> > > Esp if kernel can identify that users has indeed passed wrong info. I do agree
> > > that users can still pass invalid data that kernel maynot be able to
> > > identify in most cases.
> >
> > inode != NULL can't verify that it actually points to the valid inode,
> > NULL is only one example of invalid data.
> >
> > I agree, sometimes it makes sense to protect against the stupid mistakes,
> > but if we want to check against NULL we should do
> >
> > if (WARN_ON(!inode))
> > return;
> >
>
> agree, that warn_on is better than a simple check
and this one
if (WARN_ON(inode < PAGE_OFFSET))
is even better ;)
> > Especially in uprobe_unregister(). The current code is really "hide
> > the possible problem" and nothing more. It is better to crash imho
> > than silently return.
> >
> > > > register() also checks uc->next == NULL, probably to prevent the
> > > > double-register but the caller can do other stupid/wrong things.
> > >
> > > Users can surely do more stupid things. But this is again something that
> > > kernel can identify. By allowing a double-register of a consumer, thats
> > > already registered, we might end up allowing circular loop of consumers.
> >
> > I understand. But in this case we should document that uc->next must
> > be cleared before uprobe_register(). Or add init_consumer().
> >
> > And we should change uprobe_unregister() to clear uc->next as well.
> > I think that the code like this
> >
> > uprobe_register(uc);
> > uprobe_unregister(uc);
> >
> > uprobe_register(uc);
> >
> > should work. Currently it doesn't because of this check.
> >
>
> yes, these should work and makes a case to nullify ->next on unregister.
>
> However, what if someone tries
>
> uprobe_register(uc1);
> uprobe_register(uc2);
> uprobe_register(uc1);
>
> i.e somebody tries to re-register uc1, while its active and has a valid
> next. After the re-registration of uc1, the uprobe->consumers will no more reference uc2.
Yes. And even without uprobe_register(uc2) the result won't be good.
This is like list_add(node).
> Should we leave this case as a fool shooting himself?
IMHO yes, or we should create init_consumer() or at least document that
the private ->next member should be nullified.
But let me repeat,
> > So I still think these checks are pointless and (at least in unregister)
> > even harmful.
Yes, but I am not going to argue if you want to keep these checks.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-13 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-23 20:27 [PATCH 0/7] uprobes: register/unregister preparations for filtering Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] uprobes: Move __set_bit(UPROBE_SKIP_SSTEP) into alloc_uprobe() Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 5:56 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 2/7] uprobes: Kill the "uprobe != NULL" check in uprobe_unregister() Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 6:00 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 3/7] uprobes: Kill the pointless inode/uc checks in register/unregister Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 6:19 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-12-10 19:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-13 10:35 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-12-13 13:15 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-12-13 14:08 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-12-13 14:12 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 4/7] uprobes: Kill uprobe_consumer->filter() Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 12:02 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 5/7] uprobes: Introduce filter_chain() Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-24 16:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 12:04 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 6/7] uprobes: _unregister() should always do register_for_each_vma(false) Oleg Nesterov
2012-11-23 20:28 ` [PATCH 7/7] uprobes: _register() should always do register_for_each_vma(true) Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-13 10:26 ` Srikar Dronamraju
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