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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>
Cc: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:02:20 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130115150220.6fabe7f2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGoCfiw+rXzeskA95iHkwW-OU5v=QVYMryO82dLJYKxDjsvWBw@mail.gmail.com>

Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:47:50 -0500
Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com> escreveu:

> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> <mchehab@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> Lets say SS, SNR, BER, UCB are queried, but only SS and SNR are ready to
> >> be returned, whilst rest are not possible? As I remember DVBv5 API is
> >> broken by design and cannot return error code per request.
> >
> > The one(s) not available will have "FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE" as scale,
> > and its value is undefined.
> 
> We may wish to rethink this approach - it lacks the ability to specify
> why the data isn't available.  It would probably be very useful for
> userland to know the difference between a statistic not being
> available because the hardware doesn't ever provide that data (in
> which case a GUI might do something like not show the option),

As already explained:
len = 0 in this case.

> versus
> it not being available temporarily due to a lack of signal lock (in
> which as a GUI might show the option but indicate that the data is not
> currently available).

FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE

> Likewise I would want to know that data isn't
> being shown due to some error condition versus it not being supported
> by the hardware or the data being temporarily unavailable due to a
> lack of signal lock.

I'm not sure if we have enough bits for a per-layer error error code,
but there is space for a per-stats error code. We can even extend it
to the entire DVBv5 API, as there are some reserved space there.

Yet, IMHO, this is overkill: userspace just needs to know if a given
stats property is not supported by a driver or not available.

> See, I've been thinking about it for two minutes, and already found
> three perfectly reasonable error conditions userland would probably
> want to differentiate between.  Do we really think it's wise to make
> this field the equivalent of a bool?
> 
> It might make sense to add something equivalent to errno for a per-stat basis.

I don't object to add it, but IMHO it is overkill for stats.

Regards,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-15 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-15  2:30 [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 01/15] mb86a20s: improve error handling at get_frontend Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 02/15] dvb: Add DVBv5 stats properties for Quality of Service Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 03/15] dvb: the core logic to handle the DVBv5 QoS properties Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 04/15] mb86a20s: Update QoS statistics at FE read_status Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 05/15] mb86a20s: functions reorder Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 06/15] mb86a20s: Fix i2c gate on error Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 07/15] mb86a20s: improve debug for RF level Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 08/15] mb86a20s: fix interleaving and FEC retrival Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 09/15] mb86a20s: convert it to use dev_info/dev_err/dev_dbg Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 10/15] mb86a20s: -EBUSY is expected when getting QoS measures Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 11/15] mb86a20s: make AGC work better Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 12/15] mb86a20s: Some improvements for BER measurement Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 13/15] mb86a20s: improve bit error count for BER Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:31 ` [PATCH RFCv10 14/15] dvb: increase API version Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  8:20 ` [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API Johannes Stezenbach
2013-01-15  8:55   ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 12:23     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  9:34 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 13:10   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 14:49     ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 15:21       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 15:47         ` Devin Heitmueller
2013-01-15 17:02           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2013-01-15 15:26       ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 17:12         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 20:37           ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-16  4:26             ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 11:41               ` Luca Olivetti
2013-01-16 13:56               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 15:19                 ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 17:21                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 18:26                     ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 19:22                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 21:40                         ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 19:29                       ` Simon Farnsworth
2013-01-16 21:37                         ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 22:11                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17  3:26                             ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 22:01                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17  3:40                           ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17  9:33                             ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 16:50                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 17:15                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 18:11                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 18:27                                     ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 18:37                                       ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17 18:50                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 19:11                                           ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 19:35                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 21:29                                             ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17 22:22                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 22:46                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-22 12:16                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 15:08                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-23 15:12                                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-23 18:18                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 18:57                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 19:55                                                     ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-23 21:00                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 22:02                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 17:16                               ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17 17:22                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 17:37                                   ` [linux-media] " Klaus Schmidinger
2013-01-17 17:39                                     ` [linux-media] " Klaus Schmidinger
2013-01-17 18:36                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-19 12:04                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 13:24             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 10:38 ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-15 15:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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