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From: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F57519.5060402@iki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50F56C63.7010503@iki.fi>

On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> I am a little bit lazy to read all those patches, but I assume it is
> possible:
> * return SNR (CNR) as both dB and linear?
> * return signal strength as both dBm and linear?
>
> And what happens when when multiple statistics are queried, but fronted
> cannot perform all those?
>
> Lets say SS, SNR, BER, UCB are queried, but only SS and SNR are ready to
> be returned, whilst rest are not possible? As I remember DVBv5 API is
> broken by design and cannot return error code per request.

OK, I read that patch still. All these are OK as there is SCALE flag 
used to inform if there is measurement or not available.
No anymore question about these.

Issues what I still would like to raise now are:

1) How about change unit from dB/10 to dB/100 or even dB/1000, just for 
the sure?

2) Counter are reset when DELIVERY SYSTEM is set, practically when 
tuning attempt is done. There is new callback for that, but no API 
command. Functionality is correct for my eyes, is that extra callback 
needed?

3) Post-BER. I don't need it, but is there someone else who thinks there 
should be both pre-BER and post-BER? IMHO, just better to leave it out 
to keep it simple. In practice both pre-BER and post-BER are running 
relatively, lets say if pre-BER shows number 1000 then post-BER shows 
only 10. Or pre-BER 600, post-BER 6. Due to that, I don't see much 
interest to return it for userspace. Of course someone would like to 
know how much inner coder is working and fixing error bits and in that 
case both BERs are nice...

4) Returning bit counts as BER and UCB means also driver should start 
polling work in order to keep driver internal counters up to date. 
Returning BER as rate is cheaper in that mean, as driver could make 
decision how often to poll and in which condition (and return values 
from cache). Keeping track of total bit counts means continuous polling!


regards
Antti

-- 
http://palosaari.fi/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-15 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-15  2:30 [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 01/15] mb86a20s: improve error handling at get_frontend Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 02/15] dvb: Add DVBv5 stats properties for Quality of Service Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 03/15] dvb: the core logic to handle the DVBv5 QoS properties Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 04/15] mb86a20s: Update QoS statistics at FE read_status Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 05/15] mb86a20s: functions reorder Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 06/15] mb86a20s: Fix i2c gate on error Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 07/15] mb86a20s: improve debug for RF level Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 08/15] mb86a20s: fix interleaving and FEC retrival Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 09/15] mb86a20s: convert it to use dev_info/dev_err/dev_dbg Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 10/15] mb86a20s: -EBUSY is expected when getting QoS measures Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 11/15] mb86a20s: make AGC work better Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 12/15] mb86a20s: Some improvements for BER measurement Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:30 ` [PATCH RFCv10 13/15] mb86a20s: improve bit error count for BER Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  2:31 ` [PATCH RFCv10 14/15] dvb: increase API version Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  8:20 ` [PATCH RFCv10 00/15] DVB QoS statistics API Johannes Stezenbach
2013-01-15  8:55   ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 12:23     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15  9:34 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 13:10   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 14:49     ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-15 15:21       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 15:47         ` Devin Heitmueller
2013-01-15 17:02           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 15:26       ` Antti Palosaari [this message]
2013-01-15 17:12         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 20:37           ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-16  4:26             ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 11:41               ` Luca Olivetti
2013-01-16 13:56               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 15:19                 ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 17:21                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 18:26                     ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 19:22                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 21:40                         ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 19:29                       ` Simon Farnsworth
2013-01-16 21:37                         ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 22:11                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17  3:26                             ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-16 22:01                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17  3:40                           ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17  9:33                             ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 16:50                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 17:15                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 18:11                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 18:27                                     ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 18:37                                       ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17 18:50                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 19:11                                           ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 19:35                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 21:29                                             ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17 22:22                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 22:46                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-22 12:16                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 15:08                                               ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-23 15:12                                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-23 18:18                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 18:57                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 19:55                                                     ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-23 21:00                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-23 22:02                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-17 17:16                               ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-17 17:22                                 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-01-17 17:37                                   ` [linux-media] " Klaus Schmidinger
2013-01-17 17:39                                     ` [linux-media] " Klaus Schmidinger
2013-01-17 18:36                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-19 12:04                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-16 13:24             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-01-15 10:38 ` Manu Abraham
2013-01-15 15:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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