From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
alex.shi@intel.com, Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair()
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:11:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130222121123.GA6473@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361527288.5817.121.camel@marge.simpson.net>
* Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 10:54 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 09:36 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 10:37 +0800, Michael Wang wrote:
> > > > > But that's really some benefit hardly to be estimate, especially when
> > > > > the workload is heavy, the cost of wake_affine() is very high to
> > > > > calculated se one by one, is that worth for some benefit we could not
> > > > > promise?
> > > >
> > > > Look at something like pipe-test.. wake_affine() used to
> > > > ensure both client/server ran on the same cpu, but then I
> > > > think we added select_idle_sibling() and wrecked it again :/
> > >
> > > Yeah, that's the absolute worst case for
> > > select_idle_sibling(), 100% synchronous, absolutely nothing to
> > > be gained by cross cpu scheduling. Fortunately, most tasks do
> > > more than that, but nonetheless, select_idle_sibling()
> > > definitely is a two faced little b*tch. I'd like to see the
> > > evil b*tch die, but something needs to replace it's pretty
> > > face. One thing that you can do is simply don't call it when
> > > the context switch rate is incredible.. its job is to recover
> > > overlap, if you're scheduling near your max, there's no win
> > > worth the cost.
> >
> > Couldn't we make the cutoff dependent on sched_migration_cost?
> > If the wakeup comes in faster than that then don't spread.
>
> No, that's too high, you loose too much of the pretty face.
> [...]
Then a logical proportion of it - such as half of it?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-22 12:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-29 9:08 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-01-29 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] sched: schedule balance map foundation Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21 4:52 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21 4:58 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 11:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 2:53 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 3:33 ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22 4:19 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 4:46 ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22 5:05 ` Michael Wang
2013-01-29 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] sched: build schedule balance map Michael Wang
2013-01-29 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] sched: simplify select_task_rq_fair() with " Michael Wang
2013-02-18 5:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-02-20 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-20 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-20 14:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21 5:21 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 5:14 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 4:51 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 6:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21 7:00 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 8:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21 9:08 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 9:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 2:36 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 5:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 5:26 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 6:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 6:42 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 8:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 8:35 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 9:10 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 9:58 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 9:20 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 10:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 2:37 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 5:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 6:06 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 6:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 9:11 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 10:08 ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22 9:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 9:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 10:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 12:11 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-02-22 12:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 13:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 14:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 14:42 ` Mike Galbraith
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