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From: Michael Wang <wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	alex.shi@intel.com, Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair()
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:36:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5126D9A2.8090404@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361439789.5861.70.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On 02/21/2013 05:43 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 17:08 +0800, Michael Wang wrote:
> 
>> But is this patch set really cause regression on your Q6600? It may
>> sacrificed some thing, but I still think it will benefit far more,
>> especially on huge systems.
> 
> We spread on FORK/EXEC, and will no longer will pull communicating tasks
> back to a shared cache with the new logic preferring to leave wakee
> remote, so while no, I haven't tested (will try to find round tuit) it
> seems  it _must_ hurt.  Dragging data from one llc to the other on Q6600
> hurts a LOT.  Every time a client and server are cross llc, it's a huge
> hit.  The previous logic pulled communicating tasks together right when
> it matters the most, intermittent load... or interactive use.

I agree that this is a problem need to be solved, but don't agree that
wake_affine() is the solution.

According to my understanding, in the old world, wake_affine() will only
be used if curr_cpu and prev_cpu share cache, which means they are in
one package, whatever search in llc sd of curr_cpu or prev_cpu, we won't
have the chance to spread the task out of that package.

I'm going to recover the logical that only do select_idle_sibling() when
prev_cpu and curr_cpu are affine, so now the new logical will only
prefer leaving task in old package if both prev_cpu and curr_cpu are in
that package, I think this could solve the problem, isn't it?

Regards,
Michael Wang



> 
> -Mike
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-22  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-29  9:08 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] sched: schedule balance map foundation Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21  4:52     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-20 13:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-21  4:58     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  2:53         ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  3:33           ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22  4:19             ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  4:46               ` Alex Shi
2013-02-22  5:05                 ` Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:09 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] sched: build schedule balance map Michael Wang
2013-01-29  9:10 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] sched: simplify select_task_rq_fair() with " Michael Wang
2013-02-18  5:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] sched: simplify the select_task_rq_fair() Michael Wang
2013-02-20 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-20 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-20 14:05     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  5:21       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  5:14     ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  4:51   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  6:11     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  7:00       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  8:10         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-21  9:08           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  9:43             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  2:36               ` Michael Wang [this message]
2013-02-22  5:02                 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  5:26                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  6:13                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  6:42                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  8:17                     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  8:35                       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  8:21                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:10                   ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:39                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:58                       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21  9:20           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-21 10:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  2:37       ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  5:08         ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  6:06           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  6:19             ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  8:36         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22  9:11           ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-22 10:08               ` Michael Wang
2013-02-22  9:40           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22  9:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 10:01               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 12:11                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 12:35                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 13:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-02-22 14:30                       ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-22 14:42                         ` Mike Galbraith

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