From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
amit.shah@redhat.com, anton@enomsg.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] virtio_balloon: auto-ballooning support
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 09:28:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130510092819.322798b7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130510092046.17be9bbb@redhat.com>
On Fri, 10 May 2013 09:20:46 -0400
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2013 18:15:19 -0300
> Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 10:53:49AM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > > Automatic ballooning consists of dynamically adjusting the guest's
> > > balloon according to memory pressure in the host and in the guest.
> > >
> > > This commit implements the guest side of automatic balloning, which
> > > basically consists of registering a shrinker callback with the kernel,
> > > which will try to deflate the guest's balloon by the amount of pages
> > > being requested. The shrinker callback is only registered if the host
> > > supports the VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_AUTO_BALLOON feature bit.
> > >
> > > Automatic inflate is performed by the host.
> > >
> > > Here are some numbers. The test-case is to run 35 VMs (1G of RAM each)
> > > in parallel doing a kernel build. Host has 32GB of RAM and 16GB of swap.
> > > SWAP IN and SWAP OUT correspond to the number of pages swapped in and
> > > swapped out, respectively.
> > >
> > > Auto-ballooning disabled:
> > >
> > > RUN TIME(s) SWAP IN SWAP OUT
> > >
> > > 1 634 930980 1588522
> > > 2 610 627422 1362174
> > > 3 649 1079847 1616367
> > > 4 543 953289 1635379
> > > 5 642 913237 1514000
> > >
> > > Auto-ballooning enabled:
> > >
> > > RUN TIME(s) SWAP IN SWAP OUT
> > >
> > > 1 629 901 12537
> > > 2 624 981 18506
> > > 3 626 573 9085
> > > 4 631 2250 42534
> > > 5 627 1610 20808
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> >
> > Nice work Luiz! Just allow me a silly question, though.
>
> I have 100% more chances of committing sillynesses than you, so please
> go ahead.
>
> > Since your shrinker
> > doesn't change the balloon target size,
>
> Which target size are you referring to? The one in the host (member num_pages
> of VirtIOBalloon in QEMU)?
>
> If it the one in the host, then my understanding is that that member is only
> used to communicate the new balloon target to the guest. The guest driver
> will only read it when told (by the host) to do so, and when it does the
> target value will be correct.
>
> Am I right?
>
> > as soon as the shrink round finishes the
> > balloon will re-inflate again, won't it? Doesn't this cause a sort of "balloon
> > thrashing" scenario, if both guest and host are suffering from memory pressure?
Forgot to say that I didn't observe this in my testing. But I'll try harder
as soon as we clarify which target size we're talking about.
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From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
amit.shah@redhat.com, anton@enomsg.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] virtio_balloon: auto-ballooning support
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 09:28:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130510092819.322798b7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130510092046.17be9bbb@redhat.com>
On Fri, 10 May 2013 09:20:46 -0400
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2013 18:15:19 -0300
> Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 10:53:49AM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > > Automatic ballooning consists of dynamically adjusting the guest's
> > > balloon according to memory pressure in the host and in the guest.
> > >
> > > This commit implements the guest side of automatic balloning, which
> > > basically consists of registering a shrinker callback with the kernel,
> > > which will try to deflate the guest's balloon by the amount of pages
> > > being requested. The shrinker callback is only registered if the host
> > > supports the VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_AUTO_BALLOON feature bit.
> > >
> > > Automatic inflate is performed by the host.
> > >
> > > Here are some numbers. The test-case is to run 35 VMs (1G of RAM each)
> > > in parallel doing a kernel build. Host has 32GB of RAM and 16GB of swap.
> > > SWAP IN and SWAP OUT correspond to the number of pages swapped in and
> > > swapped out, respectively.
> > >
> > > Auto-ballooning disabled:
> > >
> > > RUN TIME(s) SWAP IN SWAP OUT
> > >
> > > 1 634 930980 1588522
> > > 2 610 627422 1362174
> > > 3 649 1079847 1616367
> > > 4 543 953289 1635379
> > > 5 642 913237 1514000
> > >
> > > Auto-ballooning enabled:
> > >
> > > RUN TIME(s) SWAP IN SWAP OUT
> > >
> > > 1 629 901 12537
> > > 2 624 981 18506
> > > 3 626 573 9085
> > > 4 631 2250 42534
> > > 5 627 1610 20808
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> >
> > Nice work Luiz! Just allow me a silly question, though.
>
> I have 100% more chances of committing sillynesses than you, so please
> go ahead.
>
> > Since your shrinker
> > doesn't change the balloon target size,
>
> Which target size are you referring to? The one in the host (member num_pages
> of VirtIOBalloon in QEMU)?
>
> If it the one in the host, then my understanding is that that member is only
> used to communicate the new balloon target to the guest. The guest driver
> will only read it when told (by the host) to do so, and when it does the
> target value will be correct.
>
> Am I right?
>
> > as soon as the shrink round finishes the
> > balloon will re-inflate again, won't it? Doesn't this cause a sort of "balloon
> > thrashing" scenario, if both guest and host are suffering from memory pressure?
Forgot to say that I didn't observe this in my testing. But I'll try harder
as soon as we clarify which target size we're talking about.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-10 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-09 14:53 [RFC v2 0/2] virtio_balloon: auto-ballooning support Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 14:53 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 14:53 ` [RFC 1/2] virtio_balloon: move balloon_lock mutex to callers Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 14:53 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 21:03 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-05-09 21:03 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-05-10 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-10 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 14:53 ` [RFC 2/2] virtio_balloon: auto-ballooning support Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 14:53 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-09 21:15 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-05-09 21:15 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-05-10 13:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-10 13:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-10 13:28 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2013-05-10 13:28 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-13 14:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-05-13 14:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2013-05-13 18:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-13 18:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-13 19:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 19:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 20:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-13 20:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-12 14:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-12 14:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-12 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-12 16:36 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-12 18:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-12 18:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 15:03 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-13 15:03 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-13 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 15:22 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-13 15:22 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-13 15:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 15:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 19:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-13 19:10 ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-13 19:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-13 19:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-16 20:56 ` [RFC v2 0/2] " Sasha Levin
2013-05-16 20:56 ` Sasha Levin
2013-05-16 21:04 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-05-16 21:04 ` Luiz Capitulino
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