From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/3] timekeeping: sync persistent clock and RTC on system time step changes
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:25:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130528202527.GB23266@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A50F75.7040703@linaro.org>
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 01:11:33PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> On 05/28/2013 01:03 PM, John Stultz wrote:
> >On 05/28/2013 12:48 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:09:14PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> >>>On 05/28/2013 11:31 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>>>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:26:14PM +0100, David Vrabel wrote:
> >>>>>On 15/05/13 19:10, John Stultz wrote:
> >>>>>>Ok, so really, as soon as the Dom0 time is set by NTP,
> >>>>>>all guests will
> >>>>>>see the right time? That makes more sense, and means the window for
> >>>>>>these sorts of issues is reasonably quite small.
> >>>>>It's a small window but it's occurring in our automated test system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>David: So I'm less inclined to merge this individual
> >>>>>>change, but if you
> >>>>>>still feel strongly about it, let me know and we can
> >>>>>>circle around on it
> >>>>>>after you've addressed the specific issues I pointed out earlier.
> >>>>>This patch was the actual bug fix but I've reworked it to use the
> >>>>>pvclock_gtod notifier chain as this seemed to be what KVM hosts were
> >>>>>using to maintain a clock for guests. Please review the
> >>>>>new series, thanks.
> >>>>Looks good.
> >>>>
> >>>>John if you are OK I am thinking to push this to Linus
> >>>>shortly as it is
> >>>>fixing a bug.
> >>>I'm really not sure I'd call this a bug. That seems like an
> >>>over-reaction to a misconfigured system.
> >>>
> >>>Or if there is a bug, I'm not sure its been clearly explained.
> >>The #1 patch - b/c you try to set the RTC time and it actually
> >>never takes. Meaning
> >>on the next time the machine is booted the time is again off.
> >
> >Ok. Yea, that one I'm fine with and have queued for 3.11.
> >
> >If you want to push it as a bug fix for 3.10, I'll leave it to you
> >to push to Linus.
>
> Probably obvious, but just in case its not clear:
>
> Though if that one patch goes to linus for 3.10, it needs to be
> reworked to not depend on the mach_set_rtc_mmss() interface change
> it currently depends on. The interface change is not bugfix
> material.
You are referring to commit 3195ef59cb42cda3aeeb24a7fd2ba1b900c4a3cc
Author: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Date: Thu Feb 14 12:02:54 2013 -0500
x86: Do full rtc synchronization with ntp
which is not CC-ed to stable@vger.kernel.org, so the #1 patch would
not be able to be back-ported to any kernel right (so v3.9, v3.8..)?
But it could go to v3.10 - as that change is there. But you are saying
it can't go to v3.10 b/c the interface change is not a bugfix
material. Is that b/c said git commit might cause regressions and
you wouldn't want to do two reverts?
That makes sense - which point I you are right that it makes
sense to stick said patch (#1) in your 3.11 queue and skip the v3.10
train for it.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] timekeeping: sync persistent clock and RTC on system time step changes
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:25:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130528202527.GB23266@phenom.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A50F75.7040703@linaro.org>
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 01:11:33PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> On 05/28/2013 01:03 PM, John Stultz wrote:
> >On 05/28/2013 12:48 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:09:14PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> >>>On 05/28/2013 11:31 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >>>>On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:26:14PM +0100, David Vrabel wrote:
> >>>>>On 15/05/13 19:10, John Stultz wrote:
> >>>>>>Ok, so really, as soon as the Dom0 time is set by NTP,
> >>>>>>all guests will
> >>>>>>see the right time? That makes more sense, and means the window for
> >>>>>>these sorts of issues is reasonably quite small.
> >>>>>It's a small window but it's occurring in our automated test system.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>David: So I'm less inclined to merge this individual
> >>>>>>change, but if you
> >>>>>>still feel strongly about it, let me know and we can
> >>>>>>circle around on it
> >>>>>>after you've addressed the specific issues I pointed out earlier.
> >>>>>This patch was the actual bug fix but I've reworked it to use the
> >>>>>pvclock_gtod notifier chain as this seemed to be what KVM hosts were
> >>>>>using to maintain a clock for guests. Please review the
> >>>>>new series, thanks.
> >>>>Looks good.
> >>>>
> >>>>John if you are OK I am thinking to push this to Linus
> >>>>shortly as it is
> >>>>fixing a bug.
> >>>I'm really not sure I'd call this a bug. That seems like an
> >>>over-reaction to a misconfigured system.
> >>>
> >>>Or if there is a bug, I'm not sure its been clearly explained.
> >>The #1 patch - b/c you try to set the RTC time and it actually
> >>never takes. Meaning
> >>on the next time the machine is booted the time is again off.
> >
> >Ok. Yea, that one I'm fine with and have queued for 3.11.
> >
> >If you want to push it as a bug fix for 3.10, I'll leave it to you
> >to push to Linus.
>
> Probably obvious, but just in case its not clear:
>
> Though if that one patch goes to linus for 3.10, it needs to be
> reworked to not depend on the mach_set_rtc_mmss() interface change
> it currently depends on. The interface change is not bugfix
> material.
You are referring to commit 3195ef59cb42cda3aeeb24a7fd2ba1b900c4a3cc
Author: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Date: Thu Feb 14 12:02:54 2013 -0500
x86: Do full rtc synchronization with ntp
which is not CC-ed to stable@vger.kernel.org, so the #1 patch would
not be able to be back-ported to any kernel right (so v3.9, v3.8..)?
But it could go to v3.10 - as that change is there. But you are saying
it can't go to v3.10 b/c the interface change is not a bugfix
material. Is that b/c said git commit might cause regressions and
you wouldn't want to do two reverts?
That makes sense - which point I you are right that it makes
sense to stick said patch (#1) in your 3.11 queue and skip the v3.10
train for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-28 20:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-13 17:56 [PATCH 0/3] x86,time,xen: maintain an accurate persistent clock in more cases David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: increase precision of x86_platform.get/set_wallclock() David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 0:57 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 0:57 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 17:52 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 17:52 ` John Stultz
2013-05-29 0:18 ` John Stultz
2013-05-29 0:18 ` John Stultz
2013-05-29 12:16 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-29 12:16 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] timekeeping: sync persistent clock and RTC on system time step changes David Vrabel
2013-05-14 0:40 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 0:40 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 9:47 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 9:47 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 17:15 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 17:15 ` John Stultz
2013-05-15 8:16 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-15 8:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-15 18:10 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 18:26 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-28 18:26 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-05-28 18:31 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 18:31 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 19:09 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 19:09 ` [Xen-devel] " John Stultz
2013-05-28 19:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 19:48 ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 20:03 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:03 ` [Xen-devel] " John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:11 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2013-05-28 20:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-28 20:30 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:30 ` [Xen-devel] " John Stultz
2013-05-28 20:11 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 19:06 ` John Stultz
2013-05-28 19:06 ` [Xen-devel] " John Stultz
2013-05-15 18:10 ` John Stultz
2013-05-13 17:56 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/xen: sync the CMOS RTC as well as the Xen wallclock David Vrabel
2013-05-13 17:56 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 0:52 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 0:52 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 7:57 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-14 15:59 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 15:59 ` [Xen-devel] " John Stultz
2013-05-14 16:14 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-14 16:14 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-14 16:17 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-14 16:28 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 16:28 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 16:24 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-05-14 16:17 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 7:57 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-14 9:55 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 9:55 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 17:24 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 18:00 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 18:00 ` David Vrabel
2013-05-14 18:03 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 18:03 ` John Stultz
2013-05-15 8:19 ` Jan Beulich
2013-05-15 8:19 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2013-05-15 18:13 ` John Stultz
2013-05-15 18:13 ` John Stultz
2013-05-14 17:24 ` John Stultz
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