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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
	darren@dvhart.com, sbw@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: Is it safe to enter an RCU read-side critical section?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:23:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130911152331.GZ3966@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130911102607.16a3da91@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:26:07AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:13:02 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 03:34:26PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 05:59:17PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:40:26 -0400
> > > > Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Agreed. So how about rcu_is_online() ?
> > > > 
> > > > Nope, what about all_your_base_are_belong_to_rcu()?
> > > 
> > > Let's see if I can remember the candidates...
> > > 
> > > 	rcu_is_cpu_idle() # reversed sense from the others
> > > 	rcu_is_ignored() # reversed sense from the others
> > > 	rcu_is_not_active() # reversed sense from the others
> > > 	rcu_is_watching_cpu()
> > > 	rcu_read_check()
> > > 	rcu_is_active()
> > > 	rcu_is_active_local()
> > > 	rcu_is_online()
> > > 	rcu_is_watching_task()
> > > 	rcu_is_watching_thread()
> > > 	rcu_is_watching_you()
> > > 	all_your_base_are_belong_to_rcu()
> > > 	rcu_is_active_loco()
> > > 	rcu_kilroy_was_here()
> > > 
> > > Maybe I should just lock them all in a room overnight and see which
> > > are still alive in the morning.
> > 
> > And after treating injuries, the survivor is rcu_is_watching().
> > 
> 
> But, but, but...
> 
> That wasn't one of the contenders!
> 
> What happened? Did rcu_is_watching_cpu(), rcu_is_watching_task(),
> rcu_is_watching_thread() and rcu_is_watching_you() all get together to
> gang up on the others, and then combined to be one?
> 
> It's another Iraq! Several segments joined together by an outside
> force and they don't play well together. And like Iraq (and the US),
> hidden inside of this "community" is "rcu_is_watching_you"!

C'mon, Steven!  I did say "after treating injuries"!  In the opinion
of the surgeon, the only option was to ampute what was left of either
the _cpu(), _task(), _thread(), or _you().  Heck, the damage was so
severe that we couldn't even tell which one it was!

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-11 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 19:52 [PATCH] rcu: Is it safe to enter an RCU read-side critical section? Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-05 20:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-05 20:59   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-05 21:05     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-05 23:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-06 10:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-06 15:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-06 15:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-06 16:40       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-06 16:52         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-06 16:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-06 17:00           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-06 17:16             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-06 17:52               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-06 17:56                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-06 18:21                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-07  0:49                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-07  1:19                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-09-08  1:55                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 10:56                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-06 17:21     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-09-06 17:41       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-06 18:59         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-06 20:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 10:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 12:13             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 12:39               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 12:45                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 12:55                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 13:08                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 13:21                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 13:29                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 13:29                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 13:37                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 13:48                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 14:40                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 15:20                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 15:39                               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:03                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 16:09                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 16:30                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:56                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 16:21                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 13:45                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 13:56                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 14:16                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:17                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 16:34                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:58                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 17:06                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 17:45                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 17:29                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-09-09 17:56                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 18:36                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 18:50                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 21:40                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-09-09 21:59                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 22:34                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-11 14:13                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-11 14:26                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-11 15:23                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-09-11 15:49                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-11 16:03                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 13:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 13:29                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 13:41                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 13:49                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-09-09 13:50                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 13:46                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 13:55                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:22                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 16:40                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 17:45                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 13:23             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 13:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 13:53                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 16:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 14:49                 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-09-09 15:08                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 15:24                     ` Christoph Lameter
2013-09-09 15:41                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 15:47                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:00                       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-09 16:03                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:11                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-10 21:37                             ` Christoph Lameter
2013-09-12  6:39                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-12 14:20                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-09-10 21:28                         ` Christoph Lameter
2013-09-12  6:38                           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-09-12 14:43                             ` Christoph Lameter
2013-09-09 16:15                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-10  4:07                   ` Mike Galbraith
2013-09-09 13:36               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 14:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-09-09 16:26                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-09 16:42                   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-09-09 16:59                     ` Paul E. McKenney

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