* Re: [Powertop] Fwd: powertop 2.4 questions
@ 2013-09-21 3:22 Marc MERLIN
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From: Marc MERLIN @ 2013-09-21 3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:38:22PM +0700, Andika Triwidada wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org> wrote:
> > By the way, my more nagging question was, how can I stop the built in camera
> > in my T530 from taking so much power? (I'm sure the number is wrong, but still)
>
> How about unloading/blacklisting its driver?
That didn't help.
It might work if I blacklist the driver and never use it after boot, but
that's not super compatible with google talk/hangouts.
That said, if I can't get the driver/device to behave, I might do that.
Marc
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@ 2013-09-19 14:38 Andika Triwidada
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From: Andika Triwidada @ 2013-09-19 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org> wrote:
> By the way, my more nagging question was, how can I stop the built in camera
> in my T530 from taking so much power? (I'm sure the number is wrong, but still)
How about unloading/blacklisting its driver?
>
> The battery reports a discharge rate of 18.4 W
> The estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 18 minutes
>
> Summary: 657.6 wakeups/second, 28.4 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 9.3% CPU use
>
> Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description
> 12.2 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.)
> 997 mW 60.0% Device Display backlight
> 76.1 mW 34.9 µs/s 34.8 Process [rcu_preempt]
> 23.1 mW 1.5 ms/s 16.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window11 --role=window11
> 9.20 mW 59.0 ms/s 347.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment
>
> Note that tunables says:
> Good Autosuspend for USB device Integrated Camera [Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.]
>
> Kernel 3.10.6.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
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* Re: [Powertop] Fwd: powertop 2.4 questions
@ 2013-09-18 19:59 Ferron, Chris E
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From: Ferron, Chris E @ 2013-09-18 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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>On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org<mailto:marc_powertop(a)merlins.org>> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:33:53PM +0300, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
>>> > So, I got powertop 2.4 from
>>> > [5]https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
>>> >
>>> > Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my
>>> > arrows, I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats
>>> > or Freq stats like I could in older powertops:
>>>
>>> in order to move between tabs use TAB button.
>>
>> That works indeed, I didn't realize it changed.
>
>I think Chris had to do that since he implemented scrollable ncurses windows, and you need up/down/left/right to move the viewport around.
>It's been a while that this code was in and the announcement went out... sadly it's hard to get distros to pick up details like that.
>
>
>Auke
Yes it's been that way for a while now.
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* Re: [Powertop] Fwd: powertop 2.4 questions
@ 2013-09-18 19:53 Marc MERLIN
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From: Marc MERLIN @ 2013-09-18 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:42:17PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:33:53PM +0300, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> >> > So, I got powertop 2.4 from
> >> > [5]https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
> >> >
> >> > Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my arrows,
> >> > I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats or Freq stats
> >> > like I could in older powertops:
> >>
> >> in order to move between tabs use TAB button.
> >
> > That works indeed, I didn't realize it changed.
>
> I think Chris had to do that since he implemented scrollable ncurses
> windows, and you need up/down/left/right to move the viewport around.
> It's been a while that this code was in and the announcement went
> out... sadly it's hard to get distros to pick up details like that.
No worries at all, it happens :)
By the way, my more nagging question was, how can I stop the built in camera
in my T530 from taking so much power? (I'm sure the number is wrong, but still)
The battery reports a discharge rate of 18.4 W
The estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 18 minutes
Summary: 657.6 wakeups/second, 28.4 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 9.3% CPU use
Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description
12.2 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.)
997 mW 60.0% Device Display backlight
76.1 mW 34.9 µs/s 34.8 Process [rcu_preempt]
23.1 mW 1.5 ms/s 16.5 Process xfce4-terminal -T window11 --role=window11
9.20 mW 59.0 ms/s 347.4 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment
Note that tunables says:
Good Autosuspend for USB device Integrated Camera [Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.]
Kernel 3.10.6.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Marc
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@ 2013-09-18 19:49 Sergey Senozhatsky
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From: Sergey Senozhatsky @ 2013-09-18 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On (09/18/13 12:29), Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:33:53PM +0300, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > > So, I got powertop 2.4 from
> > > [5]https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
> > >
> > > Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my arrows,
> > > I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats or Freq stats
> > > like I could in older powertops:
> >
> > in order to move between tabs use TAB button.
>
> That works indeed, I didn't realize it changed.
---
Tue Sep 11 10:23:26 2012 -0700
PowerTOP UI navigation enhancement(v3).
"Arrow Keys" now scroll the tab windows
"Page up/down" scroll tab windows up and down
"TAB" cycles the next window tab
"SHIFT+TAB" cycles the previous window tab
"ENTER" toggles tunables
"SPACE BAR" toggles tunables
"r KEY" refresh results and resets view of tab window.
---
it was in 2.2 release. I think the problem is that there was no
2.2 release annoucement and that change went unmentioned, so one
year later we still sometimes see such questions.
-ss
> Thanks,
> Marc
> --
> "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
> Microsoft is to operating systems ....
> .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
> Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901
>
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@ 2013-09-18 19:42 Kok, Auke-jan H
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From: Kok, Auke-jan H @ 2013-09-18 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:33:53PM +0300, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
>> > So, I got powertop 2.4 from
>> > [5]https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
>> >
>> > Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my arrows,
>> > I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats or Freq stats
>> > like I could in older powertops:
>>
>> in order to move between tabs use TAB button.
>
> That works indeed, I didn't realize it changed.
I think Chris had to do that since he implemented scrollable ncurses
windows, and you need up/down/left/right to move the viewport around.
It's been a while that this code was in and the announcement went
out... sadly it's hard to get distros to pick up details like that.
Auke
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* Re: [Powertop] Fwd: powertop 2.4 questions
@ 2013-09-18 19:29 Marc MERLIN
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From: Marc MERLIN @ 2013-09-18 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:33:53PM +0300, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > So, I got powertop 2.4 from
> > [5]https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
> >
> > Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my arrows,
> > I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats or Freq stats
> > like I could in older powertops:
>
> in order to move between tabs use TAB button.
That works indeed, I didn't realize it changed.
Thanks,
Marc
--
"A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
Microsoft is to operating systems ....
.... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
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@ 2013-09-18 18:33 Sergey Senozhatsky
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From: Sergey Senozhatsky @ 2013-09-18 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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On (09/18/13 08:46), Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
> Did anybody observed this issue?
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> Subject: powertop 2.4 questions
> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:14:49 -0700
> From: Marc MERLIN [1]<marc(a)merlins.org>
> To: [2]srinivas.pandruvada(a)linux.intel.com
>
> Hi Srinivas,
>
> As discussed, I have a couple of powertop questions, thanks for passing
> them on.
> I did try the mailing list:
> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:27:38 -0700
> From: Marc MERLIN [3]<marc_powertop(a)merlins.org>
> To: [4]powertop(a)ml01.01.org
>
> but I never heard anything back. Is the list mostly dead, or is there
> another list?
>
> So, I got powertop 2.4 from
> [5]https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
>
> Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my arrows,
> I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats or Freq stats
> like I could in older powertops:
in order to move between tabs use TAB button.
-ss
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> PowerTOP 2.4 Overview Idle stats Frequency stats Device stats Tunables
>
> Summary: 1862.8 wakeups/second, 5.9 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 26.5% CPU use
>
> Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description
> 3.30 W 9.8% Device Display backlight
> 2.67 W 0.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi)
> 1.34 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Ele
> 957 mW 4.2 ms/s 43.4 Process /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
> 635 mW 154.3 ms/s 1229.7 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Separately, it reports this:
> 1.25 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.)
>
> It's on a thinkpad T530. I haven't found a way to stop that.
> I've unloaded the uvcvideo driver, but generally haven't found
> anything else I can do.
>
> If you have any ideas, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
> --
> "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
> Microsoft is to operating systems ....
> .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
> Home page: [6]http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:marc(a)merlins.org
> 2. mailto:srinivas.pandruvada(a)linux.intel.com
> 3. mailto:marc_powertop(a)merlins.org
> 4. mailto:powertop(a)ml01.01.org
> 5. https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
> 6. http://marc.merlins.org/
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* [Powertop] Fwd: powertop 2.4 questions
@ 2013-09-18 15:46 Srinivas Pandruvada
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From: Srinivas Pandruvada @ 2013-09-18 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: powertop
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Did anybody observed this issue?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: powertop 2.4 questions
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:14:49 -0700
From: Marc MERLIN <marc(a)merlins.org>
To: srinivas.pandruvada(a)linux.intel.com
Hi Srinivas,
As discussed, I have a couple of powertop questions, thanks for passing
them on.
I did try the mailing list:
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:27:38 -0700
From: Marc MERLIN <marc_powertop(a)merlins.org>
To: powertop(a)ml01.01.org
but I never heard anything back. Is the list mostly dead, or is there
another list?
So, I got powertop 2.4 from
https://01.org/powertop/downloads/2013/powertop-v2.4
Like I showed you on my laptop, when I go left and right with my arrows,
I'm on the Overview screen, and I can't move to Idle stats or Freq stats
like I could in older powertops:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
PowerTOP 2.4 Overview Idle stats Frequency stats Device stats Tunables
Summary: 1862.8 wakeups/second, 5.9 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 26.5% CPU use
Power est. Usage Events/s Category Description
3.30 W 9.8% Device Display backlight
2.67 W 0.0 pkts/s Device Network interface: wlan0 (iwlwifi)
1.34 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Ele
957 mW 4.2 ms/s 43.4 Process /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start
635 mW 154.3 ms/s 1229.7 Process /usr/bin/enlightenment
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Separately, it reports this:
1.25 W 100.0% Device USB device: Integrated Camera (Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.)
It's on a thinkpad T530. I haven't found a way to stop that.
I've unloaded the uvcvideo driver, but generally haven't found
anything else I can do.
If you have any ideas, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
--
"A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
Microsoft is to operating systems ....
.... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
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